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LogoDaily Independent Online.         * Friday,July 16, 2004.

I will revoke more licences, says Yuguda

 

Minister of Aviation, Mallam Isa Yuguda, is a man of great guts. He is a former managing director of Inland Bank Plc and one-time minister of state in the Ministry of Transport before he was given his present portflio. A graduate of Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria and University of Jos where he obtained his bachelor’s degree and MBA respectively, Yuguda holds  strong views on virtually all subjects under the sun and he expresses those views with great vigour. Since he became Aviation Minister in July last year, he has been involved in one controversy or the other. During his national ministerial press briefing in Abuja last Tuesday, Yuguda spoke with Aviation Correspondent, Rotimi Durojaiye and Aviation Reporter, Shola Ogunode, on a wide range of issues, concerning his ministry. Excerpts

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What is the budget of your ministry this year, and can you please give us the breakdown?

Four billion was approved for the Ministry of Aviation.  N1.2 billion is for the rehabilitation of the airport in Lagos, N3 billion is for the total radar project and the remaining balance is for the rehabilitation of Mallam Aminu Kano International Airport (MAKIA), Kano.

The reports of the management consultants and other committees to audit the operations of the ministry’s parastatals have been submitted and we understand that a number of people and organisations have been found guilty. Will the ministry hand over the culprits to the police for prosecution, or what steps are you taking to punish them to serve as a deterrent?

It is true that we have received the reports and they have been approved by Mr. President and I want to assure you that all persons found guilty of committing any offence against the system will be prosecuted accordingly. For those that are expected to pay back money, either to the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) or the Nigerian Airspace Management Agency (NAMA) or the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority(NCAA), we have set up a committee and for the fact that we will not want their businesses to crumble, we have entered into agreements with some of them so that they can pay back over a period of time, but with the warning that immediately they finish the payments, we will never allow them to be debtors again to the agencies. Like I have said before, all those who have committed offences against the system will be brought to book. We will follow the processes of ensuring that we do that.

About four months ago, two airlines, IRS and Slok, had their licences revoked for violating certain regulatory procedures. While that of IRS had been returned, Slok is still being penalised. Can you please tell us when the licence of Slok will be released?

Like I have always said, I know this is one plus the end time that I have answered questions on this issue. It is my own responsibility as the number one regulator of the aviation industry in Nigeria to ensure that rules and regulations are complied with, and to ensure that the laws that govern the aviation industry are complied with. I am doing my job, I have to do it, because I have been appointed to do it, I have done it, and I will not stop doing it as long as remain in the Ministry of Aviation. If any airline breaches regulations and poses a threat to safety and security of the travelling public, I will not hesitate to revoke its licence. It is unfortunate that we were all witnesses to how the aviation industry was mismanaged in the past. We were all living witnesses to the carelessness that operators in the industry had subjected the traveling public to. We also witnessed in the past how the laws of this country were violated by the rich and the mighty without being brought to book. The law is not only meant for the poor, it is also meant for the rich and everybody in the country. If you breach the law, the law will break you.

Precisely, what is the fate of this airline now?

I have revoked the licence of Slok airline and I have explained to the Nigerian public why I did that. There was a serious breach of safety and security by the airline.

For many years now, the Nigerian College of Aviation Technology (NCAT), Zaria, has not been graduating students. Students now spend six years to complete a programme scheduled to last only 18 months. Some students of the college even protested recently, asking the school authorities to refund their money. What is the ministry doing about the plight of the school and its students?

Training in the college is carried out in four-well-structured schools namely: Flying School (FS), Aircraft Maintenance Engineering School (AMES), Aeronautical Telecommunications Engineering School (ATES) and Air Traffic Services and Communications School (ATS/COMS). All the other schools, except the flying school, have been graduating students. If you go to Zaria, before we were able to reactivate some aircraft, the past administrations of the college bought about 20 aircraft and none of them has ever flown. They have been there for years. Nobody cared to provide the facilities for them to operate. I visited some of the unfortunate students last Thursday to console them and to tell them my efforts to make sure that they graduate soon. For six years, they have suffered a lot of set backs, they have not been able to graduate. But now, the government has approved money for us, we have rehabilitated about four aircraft now, they are flying regularly on the single engine. We have also acquired a twin engine aircraft from a company in Ghana, and right now, the aircraft is in the school, they will start their twin engine training and I have given the rector the next six weeks to graduate the students, and I hope she will be able to do that. Though it is a big challenge, but I hope she will be able to make it. It is not their own making that they did not graduate, it is a fault of me and you because we didn’t work towards making that school good and we have to make it good. We have to make it the best in Africa. It has to return to its past glory. It is the only one of its kind in West and Central Africa. If you have the opportunity to visit the college, from the environment, you will know that it is back to life.

Don’t you think that FAAN should be allowed to source for funds from the capital market or the banks to complete the international terminal for the Port Harcourt International Airport instead of the present Build, Operate and Transfer (BOT) contract agreement you have with a contractor, considering the fact that such an arrangement on terminal one in Lagos has not been a successful story?

There is no project that does not have its own peculiarities. At the same time, on project implementation, you may, because of the peculiarities of the project and the peculiarities of the problems you encounter, realise that set-back can come up. In the process of implementing the BOT arrangement in Lagos, some problems arose, concerning the contractor, who was earlier given the contract and when a new contractor came on board, the concept of the project changed. So, this affected so many other things, especially the architectural, electrical and mechanical drawings. Besides, the contractor also encountered some problems, which he inherited from the original contractor. This made it possible for a lot of problems to arise, which made it impossible for us to achieve the targeted date of that project. Like I have said recently, we have discussed with the new contractor, we have agreed on a time table and we have all agreed that if there is any breach of the terms of the agreement we have entered into with him, we will revoke the contract. So, right now, from all indications, work is going on, and I hope he will keep on to the terms of the agreement. I can assure you that if he fails, he had better forget BOT. For the fact that we have suffered set-back on the Lagos BOT project does not mean that we are going to fail in Port Harcourt. It is not the same group of persons that are working on both projects. They are different groups of people, their capacities are different, their focuses are different . Government has various ways of rating contractors, who apply for these jobs. I can assure you that once the government accepts to build the new Port Harcourt terminal on a BOT basis, we have to make sure that we get the best. We have entered into an agreement, which will bring about an immediate result. Like you said FAAN should source for money from the banks. It should ordinarily not engage itself in a business which ordinarily the private sector in Nigeria should partake in. That is why the government is removing itself from all those businesses that the private sector operators can partake in so that they can invest and run it and the money that has been hitherto used in these agencies will be devoted to the priority sectors of the economy, particularly security, education and health and the likes. I want to assure you that if the government goes into a deal with any contractor on the Port Harcourt terminal, we have to make sure that it is first class and he has to deliver in line with the agreements signed.

Efforts to partner with the South African Airways (SAA) collapsed recently on the issue of a national carrier, and perhaps, that is why you are dealing with Virgin Atlantic Airways now. Should Virgin Atlantic refuse to grant the Nigerian government 10 per cent equity in its airline, as was the case in SAA, would you consider the option everyone is talking about, the Nigerian Global project, to which many insinuations have been made concerning your image?

This new arrangement will not fail and if it fails, we have other alternatives. We are working hard to ensure that it does not fail. On the Nigerian Global project, when  I assumed office last year, I was asked by Mr. President to investigate the company and I discovered that the Nigerian Global Airline has a fake certificate of incorporation with the Corporate Affairs Commission (CAC). I personally investigated the company at the CAC and discovered that it was fictitious. This company flew an aircraft into Nigeria in our national colours and used that fake certificate to obtain an Air Transport License (ATL) from the Ministry of Aviation. Those behind the project are playing pranks.

The Skypower Aviation Handling Company (SAHCOL) is the only surviving subsidiary of the former Nigeria Airways Limited. What are you doing to revive other ailing subsidiaries of the airline?

Let me use this opportunity to correct an erroneous impression about SAHCOL. SAHCOL does not belong to Nigeria Airways and also Skypower Catering and Hotel Limited. The registration was only completed last week. It was owned earlier by some private people in Nigeria Airways. Nigeria Airways breached all that makes it a responsible company that was why it collapsed.  We are registering it now so that we can prepare it for privatisation and its subsidiaries. We have to re-register it to give it back to its rightful owners. That was a formality that was supposed to have been followed. The C02 -C07 forms were not filled by the Federal Government or Nigeria Airways. So, that is why the legal adviser to the ministry had to complete the re-registration last week. Nigeria Airways broke all ethics on how to run a company and that was why it collapsed.

 

 

 

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