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I don�t like the way they are making their case because it doesn�t sell, I�m sorry to say I have so many brothers and sisters there. It doesn�t sound too logical to me that they want the presidency. South-South is trying to say that it has never been in the presidency. But, that is if you talk about the six geo-political zones. The South-South was part of the Eastern region and their son Ironsi, ruled Nigeria. Therefore, they cannot say they have not had anybody from 1914 because there was no South-South in 1959. They were part of the Eastern region and even during Biafra; they were doing very well. General Effiong was commander number 2 to Ojukwu. Graham-Douglas was Attorney General. Chief Akpan was secretary to government. So they were involved. They were on the inside and not outside. If they say they were only part of the Eastern region, I can tell you a large part of the North that was only part of the Northern region. Nassarawa, Benue Taraba, Adamawa, Borno, Jigawa, Gombe. I leave Bauchi out. The whole of that eastern flank never held any number two position until this Atiku thing. So, they can also use this argument that the South-South is using.

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South-South is trying to say that it has never been in the presidency. But, that is if you talk about the six geo-political zones. The South-South was part of the Eastern region and their son Ironsi, ruled Nigeria. Therefore, they cannot say they have not had anybody from 1914 because there was no South-South in 1959.

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"I wonder why they are all so desperately clinging unto us then since we are obviously so useless, inferior, landlocked , generaly dependent, and of no use to Nigeria, then why not just let us go on our own as Biafra? Noway? why? that means your arguments are a pack of lies. You need Igbo and cannot survive without Igbo hence your predicament and hatred." - Ochi

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The Great OCHIWAR had this to say about aluko whose Igbo hatred boiled out of control to the extent of snitching to Howard authorities to have Igbo Professors removed.

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To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 08:17:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NaijaPoliticsForum] I HAVE DUTY TO RESPOND: TAKING OURSELVES SERIOUSLY: PROPOSING A BEGINNING

I am a university professor, and have been teaching at Howard University for 21 years now. I have been head of department for 8 years. I have been in this country for 27 years now, and except for a couple of traffic incidents, have had no entanglement with the law. - aluko

Okay lets go there man. Chukwuma Smart Agwunobi was a Design Engineer with oil company in Houston Texas from 1984-1990. Where I designed the Off-Shore rigs and land trucks for oil drilling and explorations.

I designed the Semi-Conductor equipments called CVD (Chemical Vapor Deposition) & PVD (Pressure Vapor Deposition) for micro chips used by Motorola and Intel and other Semi-Conductor manufacturing companies. The record is there for you to verify with Applied Materials in Austin, Texas and Santa Clara, California. I can tell you everything about those babies.

I worked at Ford as a lead Engineer, New Product Introduction/Launch. My record is there at Ford Motor Company where I launched so many new products in South-Africa, Dagenham, London, Shanghai, China, Chihuahua, Mexico and many cities in America. I had millions of dollars in possessions doing this.

My first coming to Boeing, I was the senior lead Engineer that designed and produced the Empennage section of the of Boeing 777. That plane was launched in June 1995. Empennage is the Vertical Fin and Horizontal stabilizer of any airplane.

My second coming, I am leading the team that will do the same thing with 787. I am tasked to come up with a cheaper material to build the Empennage. How does it pain for you who have never been to the gate of any manufacturing industry to open your mouth and tell me that I am a worthless engineer. You mocked me when I said that I was going back to Boeing. In your words you said Boeing will go down soon. Chances are there that you have flown 777 Airplane. Chukwuma Agwunobi was involved from beginning to the end on that baby.

Aluko when I came back to Boeing in July, I was given one year credit to my service that means that my starting date was back dated to June 2004 with 80 hours vacation for me to take anytime and a big amount of signing bonus instead of July 2005. Am I so bad for the best aerospace company in the world to give this man with craw, craw on his John Thomas such a lift? Are you more intelligent than thousands of PhD�s that interviewed me? I must be a very good con man to fool them all. Don�t you know, I have the means to damage you and your school? All it takes is for me to tell the HR is not to recruit for my group from Howard University because their students are not forth coming in terms of performance. My word will be taken seriously because I am black.

Do you know how it pains when Suyi suggested that I can teach in college and you replied and say the colleges are not all that BAD or that in dire need of people. Aluko don�t you know that I started teaching before you? I taught Manufacturing Process, Static, Dynamics and Engineering Drawing in Community College before you. I can still do that now. Aluko don�t you know I help some Master graduate students in their projects? I taught Math and Physics at Houston Independent schools as substitute teacher. You have misread my yabis writings to determine my character and ability. Aluko, don�t you know I can teach Manufacturing Process and Machine Design in any college up to senior level? You told Joe that you will take all your stocks from Boeing because I am working there. Don�t you know that statement is enough to damage employment chances of Howard students to Boeing?

You will talk and when they respond, you start crying. Do you know how many young Engineers that seeks my advice to do their EIT (FE)? You teach the student, but I am the one to go through and put up with their mess for years to come. I have bent backward to help many Howard Students because of you. They recognize my accent and asked if I know you and I reply yes. That human blood flowing in me and just mentioning your name, I put more effort in helping them to keep high Howard as black college and indirectly protecting you.

Now imagine one Agwunobi opening his mouth - or fingers - and writing that I REPORTED some of my Igbo professor-colleagues and some of my Igbo Chemical Engineering students at Howard University to the INS so that they can be DEPORTED to Nigeria - all in his VICIOUS stance to promote his view of me as an Igbo-hater in Cyberspace ! When I know FOR SURE that I did no such thing, and would NEVER
do such a thing ? Do you know that that is a blight on my professionalism if indeed I
did that?

Let me also address this because you have shouting about it. Probable you want people to show outrage on me.

Aluko you started it. You came to the forum and pour out my marriage life. When I asked you why, you told me I was ranting and raving. Aluko what goddam right do you have to come into the public and announce that my American lady name is Brenda Washington, What goddam right do you have to come into the public and announce that my wife name is Fatima? My wife name is Rabiatu Mohammed before she married to me. She has been to MECCA twice and I changed her name to Rose when she applied for Citizen because I want her to be a Christian. Moslems call her HAJIA. Who are you and what you to lie to the public that the laws are looking for me for practicing bigamy. You know that was outright lies. You said one of the moderators saw it. Aluko you lied because anybody in America knows that you cannot apply for Green card for a wife or citizenship for any lady as a wife if you are still married. Aluko you lied that I was practicing bigamy and you know it. When you said it. One of the lady at moderator circle said she is embarrassed of marriage. Why are you shouting lies, lies all the time? Again, you said I am on medication. Do you have your facts? Is that not lies on your part?

Let�s talk about picking on someone. I never talked to you when I came to this forum. My fight was with Osita but you went into my personal record. When I asked, you said it is freedom of information. Why the freedom about me? My entire quarrel with everybody on this forum is because of you and yet, you are not satisfied. Aluko you open your mouth and sworn that over your dead body will I get MVN in NAIJAPOLITICS. You hounded MATTO to take me off moderator circle. Your hatred is too much on me and I have to fight back deadly and dirty. It is a big hatred for you to swear over your dead body. You don�t do that to Igbos. It is like telling Americans that I will kill you. Then, they will be ready for battle. Don�t tell Igbo person, that over your dead body. They take it serious. You don�t know Igbo culture.

Everybody have insulted and cursed me because of you over the war issue. This includes Pa Fru Ndeh, Affiong, Florence, Tina, Tinu, IBK, Ayo, Omogbe, Fubura, Dipo, Joe, Ade, Ikpatti, Bello, Ojo, Banji, Evelyn Joe, Dele, Banji, MATTO, Jean, Bad ass, Fadeke, etc Every Yoruba person have taken a swipe at me. The only exceptions are Suyi, Akin, Tok, Abidde, Dupe, and Tola, so what else do you want? They all like you than me. What else you want? You the Igbos to say Chukwuma shut up and curse me that I don�t worth talking to Aluko.

Okay, I have given them the chance to do so. Once they do so, I will tell a lawyer to prepare a well worded apology letter to you and Osita and I will exit the forum for good. I will apologize to every Igbo person for been a disgrace and embarrassment to them. I have taken more insult than you from those who will sit opposite table with me and piss in their cloth while evaluating their annual job performance. You think I like been insulted by this young Yorubas like Dele, Dipo, Banji because I am defending Igbo as my people? Fadeke called me an idiot and you gloat on that. I have called you idiot? Remember, I am half Igbo and careless about them if push come to shove. You have put everybody on me where a lady called my mother ASHAWO and you blocked my response to her. I am the victim of your Abacha type machination. I should be crying and not you.

Let me address your statement that I curse Yoruba�s

Everybody knows that 75% of the netters here are Yoruba�s. When someone writes article, the number of people that respond positively or negatively is always greater in numbers from the Yorubas. So the casualty of yabis will be greater to the Yorubas. I will do the same if it is Hausas, Igbos, Ijaws, Edos or Calabars. The Yorubas are more in numbers that reply negatively to my articles so that is why it is like I am yabing them. I use Ngbati to fill in the blank for okoro that they stick to Igbos as uncivilized people and I use Owambe to fill in the blank for Igbos that love money. So why are you angry? I called your father name but not insult to him because you keep insulting Igbo leaders in the name of addressing Nigeria issue. Is not fair to call your father name as ex public officials?

You have been using the words scandalous and libelous to describe my fight with you. It is also scandalous and libelous to say that I am practicing bigamy and going into my record. I don�t care whether it is freedom of information. You break the ice when you did that. And with this, I rest my case.

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Yes, landmass is small in Igbo area, and so it is with a country like Japan that is fairly comaparable to Igbo in eco/manufacturing ingenuity. In Biafra, the Igbo did not seek to go live and establish in Yoruba land; Igbo concentrated in supposedly landlocked Biafra, and therein ran a country that Nigeria could never match in every respect!

"...there can be no security in looking away" said President George Bush only yesterday. And this I believe for if there is any race in this world that must not look away, it is Ndiigbo. We Igbo tend to look away. Some look, see and do not act. I operate in the opposite; I look, I see and I act, and I have been doing this for a long, long while now without assist...giving to Igbo enemies and antagonists out there their own medicine. There is a chance that some Yoruba fellow you know might have heard about me...dating back to mid 90s. I say Yoruba, because they are against any and everything Igbo are for. Still some need to be told the Yoruba is Igbo enemy number 1! Many here did not know and still do not know that NADECO was and is anti-Igbo. If you are one of those who don't know, make contact with me and I shall educate you. � PO

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The only solution to the problem is to wipe Isreal from the face of the earth

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Hail Biafra

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a morrocan aquintance of mine made this comment after seeing the destruction in France:

"surely my people (the Arabs) does not deserve democracy, they can never live peacefully under a democratic settings like the ones established in europe. for anyday they acquire the means and the number, they will surely go against the free oder. it seems they always need autocratic sethings like what we have at home to behave".

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Igbo or not I would have joined the �Igbo or not� debate, but I refrained from it because I felt I had made my point in the past, with facts and historical records. But Pini Jason�s piece of last Tuesday more than said it all. The debate would not be worth it if not for one particular reality: the world knows who the Igbo people are. Even those whom the timid Igbo elements in Igbo Rivers and Delta are trying to impress know who they are. Governor Peter Odili has been a Rivers Man until recently when he became the foremost South-Southerner in the race for President in 2007.

Then, suddenly, some elements among the Ijaw, who feel that the South-South is their natural sphere of influence, told the world that for the fact that Odili �is Igbo�, he cannot stand as the South-South�s candidate. Also, Chukwuma Nzeogwu led a coup that was dubbed �an Igbo coup� but yet an Okpanam man will dither to admit his Igbo identity. Through Nzeogwu�s actions, the Igbo nation was brought down by a mob made up of all other Nigerians and their international supporters. When the trouble came, the Igbo boldly accepted the challenge and paid dearly for the �follies� of their son. Many elements from among today�s deserters fought for Biafra.

Any Igbo man who denies his identity is playing the ostrich because the world around us knows better. Let the Omenanzu�s and Ofili�s of Ndokwa vie for governor of Delta and see how quickly their Igbo-ness will be shoved down their throats by the real minorities! - Ochereome Nnanna

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�What happened to all you people in the West [his ethnic Yoruba people]? Otegbeye and all those people who are never off the pages of the newspapers. Not a word of condemnation from anyone. No protest to Gowon [then head of state], not even a student demonstration, not one act of solidarity with the victims. How did the rest of the country expect them [Ndi Igbo] not to feel cut of?� - Banjo, army brigadier [speaking with Wole Soyinka in Enugu, 1967]

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There are more Igbo and Yoruba that get along than some of you will ever imagine.

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What part of Nigeria does this "meritocracy" rein?

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