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In two weeks, we will know who controls Congress; who is out? and who is in?. This year, the election is about War Time President [Iraq] and the economy stupid. The GOP will lose power to the Democrats in 2007, according to some Liberal Newspapers, but don't hold your breath, the GOP is known as come back kids. However, this Election is probably the most hotly contested in history, racist commercial presenting white females as sleazy and over sexed women against an African American congressman, a democrat in Tennessee and another in Missouri, described an African American congressman, a Republican as intellectually slaved because he belongs to a wrong party makes this election a hot bed.In Minnasota, an African American of moslem faith and former Black Panther may be the first to be elected in congress or the first to be sworn in by the satanic verses[Koran].Let's see who controls Congress in November 7, 2006. How is your own state doing?

In Nigeria, Obasanjo has tasked the Governors to present one of their own to replace him, a very bad signal to Atiku and Babaginda. In Nigerian death on Politicians is an open season; many are wondering if Nigeria will remain "One Nigeria" in 2007 because of the number of death on a daily basis.


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Last night the "Democraaats" gained control of the House, and are poised to gain control of the Senate but not total control if Virginia, Montanna and the Vice President could help it; Dick Channey retains any decisive vote in the Senate. It is the War in Iraq not the economy; stupid. Lets see if the Democrats are up to the change in the country.

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How do you feel now that Democrats have kicked your GOP butt?

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Well, for a start it is simply democracy, the power of the people, they spoke and there is nothing any one can do about it, except learn from it and wait for another 4 years.

The GOP did it to the Democrats 9 years ego not because of the economy but for the moral restoration of congress and white house during the time of Bill Clinton. Yesterday, it was not about the economy, it was about the war stupid. I will hope who ever is in control will heal the country and come up with an exit strategy on the war in Iraq; this war has become a mess of course, the deaths cannot be ignored. I am not advocating for a total pull out, that will hurt the credibility of the world's war machine. We hope the Democrats will do better than the GOP. Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld steps down, perhaps that was the right thing to do, change, that is. Well done Democrats thats what democracy is all about without the barell of the gun.


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This is the beauty of democracy in action and candidly speaking, it would take another 200 hundred years for most countries in Africa to get here. Just look at how many incumbents were swept away by the Democratic Tsunami, and imagined for a minute if such could happen in my godfather run country of Nigeria.

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I have never been enthused with Nigerian politics but I am very familiar with the tribal or ethnic politics.But I know one thing for sure based on the articles and information via internet:

The end of PDP has come with the hand picking of Yaradua and the stooge from the so-called South/South by Obasanjo, an insult to the Igbos. He made Buhari a strong contender; that is if he selects a vice President from the Big East.


BY THE WAY ANYONE KNOWS WHERE ED-NUT IS? IS HE IN JAIL OR PRISON.THAT GUY HAS BEEN SILENT IN THIS FORUM FOR LONG, IT IS UNLIKE HIM.


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I am worried about Ednut too, may be child support enforcement department in TX finally caught up with him, and threw him in jail.

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Guys,

Man just had to reconnect with folks for Naija these past two months. Just got in last night.

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Mazi Ednut,

What's shaking out there in your neck of the hoods at Ninth Mile, Enugu? Are we safe?

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Son of a gun, we were worried about you, being the most endlessly loquaious person in this forum; though childish at times but we enjoyed your presence. Boy, we thought you finally gone to the Penn. You scared the living daylight out of everyone.It must be great filet for you in Nigeria after 15 years, you left your home land? Well,you're just in time to find your Dallas Cowboys lost to Seahawks. Welcome back, silly.


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Ednut,

Welcome back to the forum my friend. It is nice to see that you finally visited home. We all await your write up about the visit.

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Wow
Is this a voice from year gone by. Nwabiafra I guess we should say the same about you, where the heil have you been brother. You and I only live 6 miles apart and yet we don't even see each other.

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Biafra my brother,

I have been busy my friend hence you have not seen me either here in the forum or in parties. I tried calling you a few time but no success.

I know all is well with you though and can say that much.

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Ednut,

Why don't you just come straight and tell us you have just regained your freedom from penitentiary after being busted for Medicaid fraud in Houston instead of pretending that you were in naija.

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bababoyz,

Na way o. Even me self go tell you say Harris County jails are better than five star hotels for naija.

Thanks for welcoming me back. I plan to write about my naija for una soon.

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Yar'adua relocates to Dangote's Abuja Mansion
Written by Jonathan Elendu
Saturday, 27 January 2007

Obasanjo reluctant to approve campaign budget



The presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party, Musa Umar Yaradua has moved out of the Katsina Governor�s Lodge in Abuja. He is said to have relocated to the Abuja residence of business mogul, Aliko Dangote. The Kano born Lagos based business mogul is reputed to have bought the PDP presidential nomination form for the Katsina Governor who emerged as the presidential candidate of the PDP in what many people, including Party stalwarts regard as a sham election during their national convention in Abuja.


This publication had exclusively reported that Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo had mandated Aliko Dangote, one of the major beneficiaries of the current Administration�s economic policies, to fund the presidential campaign of Gov. Yaradua. Gov. James Ibori of Delta State also got the same marching orders from Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo.



According to presidency sources, the Katsina State Governor was told that it was not safe for him to be using his official lodge in Abuja as his residence. Hence, he had to relocate to the Dangote mansion in Maitama area of Abuja. A source, who is aware of this development, told Elendureports.com �the total ownership of Yaradua by Obasanjo is complete. Now every time he breathes Obasanjo will know.� Apart from being a guest of Aliko Dangote in Abuja, the hitherto recluse Governor now junkets around the country in Dangote�s executive jet.



However, the seemingly warm relationship between Aliko Dangote and Gov. Yaradua is said to be given the matriarch of the Dangote clan sleepless nights. Aliko Dangote�s mother is worried that his relationship with Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo has led to Dangote being one of the most hated men in Kano, his hometown. Madam Dangote constantly points to a live interview by Aliko Dangote on Freedom Radio, a Kano based FM station. The business man had been a guest on a call-in show. According to sources in Kano, majority of the callers heaped insults on the business mogul because of his relationship with the President. Elendureports.com investigations confirmed that Aliko Dangote has not spent a night in Kano in a long time for fear of being harmed. A source told this reporter: �The venomous hatred for Aliko makes it impossible for him to spend the night in Kano. He leaves town no matter how late.� His mother confided in a relative that she wonders how her son will survive in Nigeria after Obasanjo leaves office and Yaradua is rejected by Nigerians at the polls.



Some analysts in Abuja opined that the businessman�s investment in the Yaradua campaign was necessary, if he wanted to continue to enjoy the enormous influence and benefits his closeness to the Obasanjo Government has brought. Our investigations reveal that Aliko Dangote has benefited from waivers amounting to more than fifty billion naira (N50,000,000,000.00) since the inception of the Obasanjo regime. A Yaradua presidency funded by Aliko Dangote would only ensure that those benefits continue.


Elendureports.com can also reveal that the kick-off the Yaradua presidential campaign was not enthusiastically endorsed by Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo. According to sources at the Presidency, the PDP headquarters and other places, Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo is being viewed as an obstructionist who does not truly want the Yaradua presidential campaign to succeed. Based on interviews with various sources, we can confirm the President has refused to endorse the budget of the Yaradua campaign team. The President, who had requested for the budget, threw it out the moment he got it and described the people who prepared the budget as thieves. The Yaradua campaign staff had asked for ten million naira (N10,000,000) for logistics for the Lagos kick-off of the campaign. The President cut it down to three million (N3,000,000). Even then, the money was not released on time and the staffers had to travel to Lagos with their personal funds.



The President�s staff are said to have also engaged in tactics designed to frustrate the campaign staff. One source told this reporter: �We will prepare memos and send to the President�s people and they will just sit on it. Their body language indicates that they don�t really believe in this campaign.� Elendureports.com was informed that while plans to change the Party�s flag-bearer for the presidential elections have been halted, there is enormous pressure on Pres. Obasanjo to drop Jonathan Goodluck. �Nobody believes the guy is equal to the job. I can tell you Baba is under serious pressure to drop Goodluck. Don�t mind the sycophants shouting Yaradua and Jonathan. Corner them in a room and they will tell you choosing these two guys to represent the Party for presidential elections was a monumental fraud and blunder combined.�



Pres. Olusegun Obasanjo�s attitude towards the Yaradua candidature has not come as too much of a surprise to some Party insiders. According to a member of the team who prepared the campaign budget the President rejected, �We know the man does not want to go anyway. This is his own way of showing to us that he is still in the game.�

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Al Sharpton, America's voice of Ghetto fabulous, spokesperson for Angry black men; said over the weekend that Barrack Obama is not one of us, and another black man of the Washington Post, Obama does not have thE black experience. You wonder why Collin Powel did not run for President; black Americans were not receptive of him because his folks held from Carribean Island

What Al Sharpton means : Barrack Obama is not one of their own because he is not the candidate to give them hand out, section 8, public assistance, or angry black man, blaming the Racist white America for their problems, he is not a decendant of the Slave trade, never lived in a project,his mother was white, his father African, he was raised by his white grandparents; only suffered a light stereo type about being black, yet according to CBS Poll, 52 percent of Black people will vote for Hillary Rodman Clinton, a white woman; has no black experience; never lived in a ghetto, not a descendant of the slave trade, and has never blamed the Racist whites for BLACK American problem, low SAT's and the death of homicidal black youth. What a shame!

IS THIS ABOUT BARRACK OBAMA NOT BLACK ENOUGH, [AFRICAN/WHITE] OR SIMPLY AN AFRICAN? YOU BE THE JUDGE.


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WP1B,

Come on now! Ain't you a beneficiary of the American social programs?

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Call him a black man,not a real black man, African American, other, white and black or an American born of African decent, he is like a rock star in American Politics, smart and elegant. And if you call him a black man or not a real black man, no black man has achieved what he has done in 3 months;he became a Presidential candidate or taken so serious in the national politics. Obama has raised 25 Million dollars [Cool] , one million short of Hillary Rodman Clinton. The first time in 20 years Democrats have raised more money than the GOP. That ought to make you think, Obama is a candidate to bank on if your a libral minded person. Watch out, Hillary and Al Sharpton, here comes Obama.

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The most hard wrenching leadership selection process in the world to rule a nation is USA and they earned it. To become an American President, you must work hard to get it, unlike Nigeria where it is handed to you in a platter.
The Nigerian people cowardly make noise and sing the blues after being defrauded compared to the actionable Kenyans.
In Nigeria; there is no campaigning or getting to know you, the candidates or what they stand for. It is selective alright but it takes only 10 seconds at the back door to name a President. He does not have to work hard to get the people's vote or debate with other candidates.

USA ELECTION:
If you have seen the faces of all the candidates, particualrly the Democratic candidates during a debate; you see fatigue, excrutiating wrinkles and eyeballs deemed with red and dilated pupils. That is hard labor at personal best to serve the people.

Obama has shown that he is likable and electable. He started with greased monkies on his back; you know the so-called Black leaders stating that he is not Black enough and the Press for lack of experience. But that statement became an advantage for him; contrasted him from Jessie Jackson and other protest candidates. The Caucasians saw him as likable and ignored his lack of executive experience.
The black leaders leaned towards Clinton but Opra Winfrey saw something the loud mouthed black leaders did not see. The black leaders saw former President Clinton. The Caucasians don't want former President Clinton in the white House. And Opra saw energy, Presidential ambition, change, class; she also saw John F Kennedy and Martin Luther King combined. She campaigned for him in Iowa and raised 3 million for him in California.

Obama started campaigning a year ego in Iowa and the hard work has paid off.After the Iowa primary; Clinton was leading in New Hamsphire 33 to 28 Obama. After Saturday's debate; Obama is currently leading in the Poll in New Hamsphire 34 to 30 Clinton. And by this evening, Poll showed him leading Clinton by double digit. Now thats hard work my friend. Vote for Obama for the future and new generation of African born Americans, for change and for being such a class. I have voted for the GOP in the last 8 years and this time, I will vote for Obama. I am impressed.


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Godamned Africans and their conspricacy theory. I met 6 different Africans, Liberian, Ghanian, Nigerian, Ivory Coast and Namibian in an African Restaurant, like Hillary's famous quote, " A vast Right Wing Conspiracry, a quote made famous when Bill Clinton's uncontrollable and erotic drive to have sex with a younger female[Monica Luwinski]. These Africans have assumed that silly faculty by Hillary Clinton.
These Africans were in agreement that the Press is conspiring with the Republicans for Obama to win the Democratic ticket so he will loose easily to a Republican. The same air heads had previously sworn that Obama will never win any state but Illinois. The same Africans predicted that Clinton will win the election, quess who is being BBQ in a grill----> Hilllary Rodman Clinton.
These Africans formerly for Hillary, have come up with a voddoo theory that the Press wants Obama to win so the Republicans will retain the White House. They failed to watch this man's record from Harvard Law School to Senator in his own state, not withstanding his likability. To further inform you how silly and limited intellectually adventrous; they are, they will prefer Obama to be Vice President to Clinton. What a pity?

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That bitch, Hilary Rodman Clinton cried without tears, begged for vote and choked with emotionns to win the New Hamsphire primary. Why then should she be president under pressure with such a low down display?


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DESPARATE COUPLES, RACIST CLINTONS AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY


For an act of desparation and avoid being swallowed by Barrack Obama, the Clintons have decided the best way to take him down is to inject racist code statements in the campaign.

President Clinton: "This whole thing about Obama is a Fairy Tale; I have ever seen, meaning his dream to become the first Black President is not but a false tale based on well crafted speech by Obama.

HILARY RODMAN CLINTON: The Civil Right was started by Lyndon Johnson discrediting the effort made by black people and Martin Luther KIng who placed his life on the line; long before President Johnson.

New York Attorney General, Kuomo, son of Marion Kuoma:" We cannot jive talk ourselves to the white house referring to Obama.

Well, there you see it. You can take a white trash out of the trailer house but you can never take the trash out of him or her no matter how rich or educated he or she is. President Clinton may have been doomed the First Black President but don't forget he comes from the South and a red neck in his house hold where the N word was frequently used.

The Democratic party masquarad themselves as Librals but remains the most racist and Libral party compared to the Republicans. This is another reason why the Republicans will retain the white house because Race has been injected into the campaign by the CLINTONS.
Hilary Rodman was given one hour on NBC Meet The Press to defend herself and sale her campaign while Obama...... NBC is well known for being libral TV station and Democrats as well.

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Former President Bill Clinton and his wife Hilary Rodman Clinton disgust me to the bone. Dirty-Racist politician in the blood and friends of Black America in the public.

Clinton and his wife have applied every racist code words against Obama and now their old tricks has cought up with them. They are not what many Black Americans actually think they are.They use them for their advantage. It was Clinton, then governor of Arkansas left his campaign to witness the execution of a mentally unstable black man to please his white constituence. Imagine if he was a Republican Governor, black leaders would have raised hell. Andrew Young, former Mayor of Atlanta is still not convinced about the bleeding Libral.
Aging Andrew Young stated that Clinton is just as black if not more black than Obama. And you wonder how one can be measured being black. Obama has tried to appeal to all Americans but the Clintons want you to believe that he is a black candidate:to please his white constituents; Shame on them. If you can't beat Obama; smear him by labelling him as a black candidate.

Here is Clinton: Obama's victory in South Carolina is no better than Jessie Jackson when he won South Carolina but did not become President" Racist undertone. Why did he not use Edward he won South Carolina but did not become President. Clinton has and will fail to label Obama as a Black Candidate, if you Democrates don't get the drift. I wonder when? I have lost respect for both the bitch and Bubba, they crave racism to advance their cause.

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People,
Let us not be used or fall into this trick.
The other people will like to analyse, interpreet and spin any and everything the Clintons or Obama's camp says to create a rift. O kwobe ekwobe o balu onye ilo.
When the din is raised, the enemy gains ground.

Yesterday, Bill was the "first black president". Now THEY want us to see lynching in everything he says, even when Obama himself uses his rebuttals very carefully.
In a little while, these two camps must come together to face the real racists in the GOP.

No matter how well the spinners write, read between the lines before you join the fray.


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What Barrack Hussein Obama should understand is that running for president is not a beauty pageant. Once he threw his hat in, he should expect every facet of his being to become implicated. It exposes his na�vet� when he and his supporters insist that it is a racial attack for anyone, including the Clintons, to make allusions, no matter how vague, to the unlikelihood of him becoming president. It is these clearly justified and politically acceptable allusions to his lack of qualifications or ability that Barrack Hussein Obama and his supporters consider to be racial attacks. I strongly disagree with them.

This sort of baseless cry about racism cuts Obama as a sympathetic figure who is better suited for community service work in his native Illinois than as a candidate for the presidency of the United States of America and Commander-in-Chief of its armed forces.

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You know what? You Democrates still have lots of making up to do before November. There is divisivness among party members, those for Obama, Edward and those for Clinton. Edward has not resolved his past issues with Bill Clinton. The Clinton's role against Al Gore still haunts him.
Come November; a GOP will retain vacancy in the White House. Hilary need more than 2000 delegates to clinch the ticket, I don't see it happening. Obama is close second with 187 delegates to 241 or less.

Honestly, unless Obama is nominated, I will vote for a GOP as usual.You talk about experience, my man, Bush is probably the most less intelligent, this country has ever for a President with an IQ of a gun barell [I love it] but he is likable with strong conviction.

Hilary is there to make history but not to solve the problem facing this country. Bill Clinton is actually; running for the Third term. Has anyone heard from him lately? it looks like Bubba's mouth has been washed clean with soap. By the way,if Obama is playing the race card, why are your prominent Democrates endorsing him?

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Damian,

The same can be said about Mrs. Clinton. This country is not ready for a woman president and I for one will vote for even Romney b4 I vote for Mrs. Clinton to be the next US President.

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I think McCain has a better chance among all the candidates--from the left to the right. His liberal approach and what he stands for, especially the war in Iraq, is very clear and he gets my vote. Democrats are opportunists, wimps and cry babies.
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I think at this point it is safe to say that Barrack Hussein Obama (B.H.O) is running for VP. Once she wraps it up, Hillary is likely to pick B.H.O as her running mate. Those of us who are conservatives can now go on to the task of preventing a liberal from taking over the White House. Unfortunately McCaine is a liberal in a nominally conservative party. Mac may be back. But, I am not sure who is more conservative; Hillary or Mac?

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BIG TROUBLE IN DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND GOP WILL REMAIN OCCUPIED IN THE WHITE HOUSE.


It appears that Obama will definitely have more delegates and popular votes than Hilary Rodman. If Hilary is norminated by Super Delegates and goes on to represent the party against a GOP, the African American will be angry and Obama supporters, jump ship to protest against Hilary and the party by voting the GOP nominee. There are no two ways about it. The Democrats are in hot soup. Most Polls among the GOP will prefer to run against Hilary and avoid Obama because of his popularity and has no dirt in his closet. Hilary and Bill are liabilities have lots of dirts in their closet, from the White water scandal in Arkansas; Jennifer flowers; sucide in the White House and to Monica Luwinski sex, lies and oral sex. How soon do we forget. Who will babysitt Bill Clinton when Hilary is out visiting a foriegn country or another state?
You heard it from me. The Democrats are in BIG TROUBLE. IF THEY WANT TO WIN, OBAMA Is THEIR MAN.


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Ku Klux Klan Endorses Obama.

Obama had said, he has the power to bring people together, this could be it.


KENTUCKY - USA - Imperial Wizard, Ronald Edwards has stated that, 'anything is better than Hillary Clinton.'
White Christian Supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan has endorsed Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States of America.

Speaking from his Kentucky office in Dawson Springs, the Imperial Wizard exclaimed that anything or anyone is better than having that 'crazy ass bitch' as President.

This is the first time in Klan history that any member of the KKK has ever publicly supported an African American candidate for the presidency.

KKK lodges all over America have been gathering and holding rallies supporting the black presidential candidate.

KENTUCKY - USA - Imperial Wizard, Ronald Edwards has stated that, 'anything is better than Hillary Clinton.'
White Christian Supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan has endorsed Barack Obama to be the next President of the United States of America.

Speaking from his Kentucky office in Dawson Springs, the Imperial Wizard exclaimed that anything or anyone is better than having that 'crazy ass bitch' as President.

This is the first time in Klan history that any member of the KKK has ever publicly supported an African American candidate for the presidency.

KKK lodges all over America have been gathering and holding rallies supporting the black presidential candidate.


KKK members in Tennessee rally against Hillary Clinton and support Barack Obama


Grand Turk Cletus Monroe has also been very vocal about the election and has donated thousands of dollars to Obama's election fund.

'The boy's gonna do it. My Klan group has donated up to $250,000 to the Obama fund. Anything is better than Hillary Clinton. Hell I'll even adopt a black kid from Africa before I vote for Hillary.'

'A few years back we were lynching negroes. Now we're gonna vote for one to be president of the US of motherfu**ing A, damn it! Anyone or anything is better than Hillary Clinton - anything!!'

Placards for Barack Obama have been put up around the Klan's Headquarters and the KKK have announced a television ad campaign to support the African American candidate.

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Al Sharpton, America's voice of Ghetto fabulous, spokesperson for Angry black men; said over the weekend that Barrack Obama is not one of us, and another black man of the Washington Post, Obama does not have thE black experience. You wonder why Collin Powel did not run for President; black Americans were not receptive of him because his folks held from Carribean Island

What Al Sharpton means : Barrack Obama is not one of their own because he is not the candidate to give them hand out, section 8, public assistance, or angry black man, blaming the Racist white America for their problems, he is not a decendant of the Slave trade, never lived in a project,his mother was white, his father African, he was raised by his white grandparents; only suffered a light stereo type about being black, yet according to CBS Poll, 52 percent of Black people will vote for Hillary Rodman Clinton, a white woman; has no black experience; never lived in a ghetto, not a descendant of the slave trade, and has never blamed the Racist whites for BLACK American problem, low SAT's and the death of homicidal black youth. What a shame!

IS THIS ABOUT BARRACK OBAMA NOT BLACK ENOUGH, [AFRICAN/WHITE] OR SIMPLY AN AFRICAN? YOU BE THE JUDGE.


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Waypoint,
I've been wanting to comment on your above post for some time now. I don't think Al Sharpton speaks the feelings of the majority of African-Americans. Obama is one of us. Simply because he retains his African name does not disqualify him from being our brother. Similarly, just because most if not all African-americans have not retained their African names does not disqualify them from being African. They are biologically if not socially African, and quite aware of it.

If you know something of American history, you will understand that Africans were forbidden from using their African names or speaking any African language. Any infractions of this general rule usually met with a severe consequence, from starvation, lashings, to torture, and sometimes amputation of a finger or a toe. American Southerners practised the most despicable and de-humanizing slavery of any found in the Americas, and, by the way, the posterity of these same folks today comprise much of your beloved Republican party. It is a different party today than the party of Lincoln. The name may be the same, but the attitudes are completely different.

Obama is very popular among African-americans regardless of what one or two political spin-doctors may say. People like Al Sharpton are necessary for the African-american community, as ready to call a spade a spade, and to confront racism where ever and when ever it rears its ugly head. He and others like him are our pit-bull watchdogs(apologies Al). No one of us complained when he called for Don Imus' dismissal, rather we agreed with him. But that doesn't mean we always agree with what he or any other of our so-called leaders say. There are, I think, over 50-60 million of us in America, and we(you included) are as diverse as any people on earth, and perhaps more gifted, but you make it sound as though all of us have our hands out begging, which, my brother, is not the case, but is the stereotypical image and caricature the Republican party has historically portrayed us to be.

Do we have social programs?...yes; are all African-americans participants or beneficiaries of those programs?... no. Are those programs needed?... yes, by both white and black people, that their children might not suffer simply because the parents, for whatever reason, cannot care for them properly. Is there abuse? yes, and there will always be abuse where ever free services are offered by the government. But they are not free for us because our fathers and mothers paid for them a hundred times over, with their blood , their sweat, and their tears. So when I see a line of African-americans outside a food stamp office, I don't immediately judge, because if you wish to see a line of whites outside the same government office, go to West Virginia and you will get your wish, or go to Alaska, or maybe Wyoming, or Idaho,etc. and you will rarely see African Americans there in line for a government subsidy, but you will see whites, and lots of them. So please let's put things in perspective.

As for Colin Powell, I never knew of any Carribean roots until you mentioned them, and I like to think that I am somewhat informed. So it really escapes me as to how African-americans rejected him for this reason. Your comments, it seems to me, are driving wedges between brothers where none really existed before. I don't think it is intentional but a result of your Republican endoctrination. I for one am as conservative as you are, but I am no Republican, and there is a difference.

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Greg, Obama became popular among African Americans at a later date, during and after the South Carolina primary...Bill Clinton tried to label him a "Black Candidate or rather, a dreamer and it backfired; Hilary Rodman made a statement about former President Lyndon Johnson being the forebearer of the civil Right movement prior to the primary; discrediting Martin Luther King who long started the movement before Johnson. African Americans took insult to that statement. It was after this primary that African Americans started to back Obama. They had initially backed Hilary. Some said he is White, African and others Biracial. Some went further and continued to say that we have already elected a "Black President" Bill Clinton. Former UN Ambassador and Atlanta Major, Andrew Young also said that Bill Clinton is more black than Obama. Guess what, Al sharpton is undecided, Jessie Jackson is undecided, Andrew Young is undecided and many more prominent and vocal black leaders are undecided; US Rep of California, Maxim is backing Clinton.The minority owner of BET called Obama a drug addict and later apologised. The only person, who took Obama serious at the earlier stage was Oprah Winfre, long before the Clinton's injected Race in the campaign. Where is Bill Clinton now? he has taken a back seat after repeated warnings from Super Democrats to calm down.

What this people do not know is that Obama has raised more money than Clinton or any Republican candidates for the White House and from White Americans...... The first time in the history of campaign money that a Democrat has raised more money than a GOP candidate.
The White people of America do not want another Clinton in the White House; particularly Hilary Rodman Clinton. Obama is a better scandelous couple. They see a person with no scandal.
I am one of those White people. I will vote McCain if Obama is....... by the Democrates. This is not about pitting "brothers against "brothers; this is facts and the thinking faculty of the so-called black American leaders. To be a black leader , you don't have to be elected, you just have to be vocal and speak for what affects the Black Americans in white America. Al has conspicously earned the title [Black leader]. Although they do not speak for the rest of Black Americans, their statement is taken seriously. Al Sharpton was effective in releasing one of the Juno 6; he was also effective in firing a golf anchor woman whose statement to lynching Tiger Wood in the alley was not well received despite that she did not mean any racial harm about it; she was sent packing after Al went on Larry King live demandED that she is fired. Black leaders are not elected, they are private citzens bent on changing White America for Black Americans, thats one reason they have the NAACP. They are yet to back Obama. And come to think of it, this has been to Obama's advantage.

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