quote:Originally posted by Waypoint1Biafra: If there is any thing that worries a lot of democrats and excites the Republicans, it is the flippant and the uncontrollable and endlessly loquacious Biden, the Vice for Obama. The man talks too much and sometimes does not stop to listen to his own conscious awareness of his Auto pilot dribbling of his tongue.
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Waypoint,
This is well-said and I am in total agreement. Biden should work on not uttering all his mind. As the proverb teaches, it is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
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I don't know if anyone was listening when over three weeks ago I expressed concern about the state of the nation's economy and predicted a virtual collapse of the financial sector. In that initial post I wrote...
quote:Originally posted by Greg: All,
The whole world awaits the outcome of the American presidential election if only for the sheer novelty of there being a candidate of African descent. The so-called "rock star" status of Barack Obama in his bid for president of the most powerful country in the world cannot be denied, but there are other aspects of this unique historical moment that cause me a consternation of monumental proportions. Although inexperience in foreign policy has been cited as a crucial Obama weakness, it is not foreign policy that worries me...and regardless of whether a President Obama sucessfully ends the war in Iraq, it will in no way reduce my concern about near future events that will rapidly overtake our attention. The events of which I write have not been caused by Obama but have for some time been in motion, and are ready to burst forth upon an unperceptive, unprepared and rather complacent public. I speak of the American economy, and therefore the world economy.
For the last two quarters there has been a decline in America's gross domestic productivity(GDP). Officially, this is the definition of a recession. With the sharp rise in the price of crude oil, the cost of production of all goods and services has experienced a comensurate increase with no sign of any reversal. Unemployment rates from state to state are such that the national government has seen the need to grant extended benefits nationwide for an additional 12 weeks. In addition, the pump-priming tactic of the recent tax relief payments betray a certain panic on the part of the government as it regards the potentially disastrous results of record bankruptcy filings by banks, businesses and individuals. Foreclosures of homes and businesses are also rapidly approaching record levels without intermission. One does not have to be an economist to recognize the signs of these times.
Whether or not Obama is elected the above-mentioned economic pressures will cause a run on banks in this country, that is, persons and corporations removing their assets from banking institutions, especially if those institutions hold lots of short-term debt, which is being defaulted on in alarming numbers. If your money is in one of these institutions that declares bankruptcy, you may lose big time. Most, however, of the "movers and the shakers" in the economy will move quickly to protect their assets by alternatively investing in precious metals, leaving the general public to pay the bills of the risky debt they have taken on paper. I predict that if Obama wins, these same will overreact and stay out of the market altogether and be unwilling to risk their capital in an economy presided over by a black president, and therefore make mattters much worse.
If you have large assets or any considerable amount of money in the bank, you will do well to investigate that bank's financial strength by subscribing to several financial newsletters for the next six months...and even if you save your assets from being held in a bankruptcy proceeding, there will be hard times for the rest of us for some time to come because of the stated economic pressures which show little prospect for improvement.
The republicans have once again gotten their way. The poker game is almost over for this round and they are about to take their winnings and go home, leaving the "small-stakes guys" to fight for the crumbs. I gotta hand it to Bush and Cheney...deftly taking us from a budget surplus to recession. You gotta admire these Republicans; they bluff well and know when to quit.
Borrowing from the venerable Chinua Achebe's famous antagonist Okonkwo, who said(paraphrased) the lizard who jumped to the ground from the high iroko tree remarked that he would praise himself if no one else does.
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For those who may consider my past and present analysis of the state of American economic affairs as too simplistic, please note that expounding upon endless minutiae has never been a hallmark of my postings but rather, I avoid the trees to observe the whole forest, which makes it easier to see both storms on the horizon as well the beginnings of conflagrations. If you don't agree with my assigning blame to political quarters, or my characterization of economic activities, or even the quantities in general, just keep abreast of the news events for a little while before you solidify your opinion.
BTW, look for the Japanese and the Chinese to play an important role in the days ahead, as in loaning money.
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BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRACT ISSUES SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES ON OBAMA..... NA WHAA FOR THESE DEMOCRATES AND THEIR SUPPORT FOR BARRACK. Remember a Poll last week indicated that the election may be decided by racist Denocrates against Obama because some Democrats believe that Blacks are lazy. Read about Clinton on McCain.
Bill Clinton has long pointed out he has enjoyed a good relationship with John McCain, but for a moment the former president almost sounded like a surrogate for the Republican presidential nominee Thursday morning. Appearing on ABC's Good Morning America, Clinton said McCain's move to suspend his campaign and request a delay in the first presidential debate was a move done in "good faith," rather than as a stunt to halt falling poll numbers as several Democrats have alleged. "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted � I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that," Clinton said, sounding a familiar McCain Campaign talking point. A few hours later Clinton lavished praise on McCain as he introduced him at the Clinton Global Initiative saying Republican presidential nominee had taken the lead in his party when it comes to climate change. "When most people in his party were thinking that global warming was overstated and maybe even a myth � he decided to look into it," he said. The former president also described the two trips that McCain took with his wife Hillary Clinton, �the junior senator from New York," to look into the issue. But Clinton has also been effusive in his praise for Obama in recent days, telling CBS earlier this week the Illinois senator is better-suited than McCain to bring the country out of the economic crisis. Clinton's praise of McCain also came days after he told CNN's Larry King Live he was looking forward to campaigning on behalf of Barack Obama, but was not planning on "dumping" on McCain.
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David Letterman was not amused Wednesday night John McCain hastily canceled his scheduled appearance on the show. "This doesn't smell right," Letterman said during a routine that only half appeared to be a joke. "This is not the way a tested hero behaves. Somebody's putting something in his Metamucil." Shortly before he was slated to be on Letterman's show Wednesday, McCain announced he was suspending his presidential campaign to head back Washington to help ensure that congress passes the bill. But Letterman didn't appear to buy the Arizona senator's explanation, and after praising McCain's record as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, said, "This is not the John McCain I know, by God." "It makes me believe something is going haywire with the campaign," he said. "Something's gotten to him." Letterman also took a dig at Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin. "Here's what you do if you are running a campaign in the middle of an economic crisis and it�s about to crater," Letterman continued. "You go back to Washington, you handle what you need to handle. Don't suspend your campaign. You let your campaign go on shouldered by your vice presidential nominee�or is that really a good thing to do? See what I am saying?" Speaking on NBC's Today Show Thursday morning, McCain spokeswoman Nicole Wallace said, "We deeply regret offending Mr. Letterman, but our candidate's priority at this moment is to focus on this crisis," she said. Filed under: John McCain
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Barack Obama is playing his hand perfectly. In order to win the presidency he must not only be the better man(which he obviously is) but he must also not be perceived as being too aggressive toward the almost senile political stunts and gestures of John McCain. The "killer instinct" which, according to some political pundits, he does not have, is more a recognition of the psychology of the American public, in that sympathy for McCain may appear if Obama beats up on him too much. Better to let the man ruin himself...something he seems to be quite good at.
Under any other circumstances there would be no contest or question as to who the next president of the United States will be, but the race question, of force, is still in the deep recesses of people's minds; and yet for the most part I am encouraged that Americans seem to be putting racial prejudices aside for the sake of political sanity. African-american activists like Al Sharpton and others of the angry black male mold seem to sense the importance of these times and are therefore holding their tongues and keeping out of sight, as knowing that the best way to help Obama now is to not be seen as being aligned to him, hence their deliberate silence and notable absence; and if Obama actually wins, they, as well as George W. will all be lame ducks, for the logical platform of their anger and dissatisfaction will have vanished, and all their complaints nailed to the White House door.
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Hey Greg, I noticed your warning long before they came crashing . About the trillion dollar bail out, ooops , I mean take over by the Feds. I am not an economist or my field of expertise; I know this is a good investment or else. But do you think the Feds will get all the money back or some?
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I have to hear what sort of equity position the government will take in the expected legislation before I can give a good answer to your question but based on present market conditions and the inevitable inflation to follow such large expenditures based on mere credit, the public can be likened to an investor having the controlling interest in a bankrupt company. In short, whatever the government may recoup from these mortgage-backed securities will be lost in other quarters, e.g. interest on the debt, extended unemployment benefits, stimulus packages, FDIC pay-outs, shrinking tax base, etc. Imagine looking down into a black hole where whatever gets sucked into it never comes out again. From a preliminary point of view that is how I see this bail-out, buy-out, or whatever they want to call it.
There is however a ray of hope for the economy in general in that the moratorium on offshore oil drilling will soon no longer be law. Only by reducing the prices business and industry pay for fuel can we ever hope to rebuild a vibrant economy with good-paying jobs and affordable housing which in turn drives the demand for durable goods and consumer services. If through superior methods in science and technology we were able to find large amounts of crude oil offshore, we could make wonderful use of those resources while developing more and varied uses of clean burning coal and natural gas until petroleum accounts for less than 50% of our national energy expense. As the world's largest consumer of crude oil, our lessened demand for it would have the effect of causing its price to drop worldwide, thereby making our expenditures for it even less than projected. Under such conditions the American economy could once again thrive and all of us prosper. Unfortunately time and the national will to reduce our dependence on petroleum products are for the present unknown variables.
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Sarah Palin, the first time I have watched this lady in Primetime. I was not impressed. My take about her before the facts confirmed that she is not ready for the job. She is not an intelligent person. The debate last night indicates that she memorized her one liner and did not answer most of the questions presented to her. Joe on the other hand..you be the judge.
But if you have to give her some credit, I will definitely give her a 7 [Touch Down] for effort and zero for substance. Here is one answer of many she failed to answer from CNN Brown.
Gwen Ifill (debate moderator): Given the events of the week, what promises have you and your campaigns made to the American people that you're not going to be able to keep?
Sen. Joe Biden (Democratic vice presidential candidate): The one thing we may have to slow down is a commitment we made to double foreign assistance. We'll probably have to slow that down.
The United States spends about $23 billion a year on foreign aid. And granted, I am terrible at math, but I'm pretty sure $850 billion minus $23 billion still leaves you pretty deep in the hole. So how about Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate. What did she have to say? Ifill: Governor?
Palin: Well, the nice thing about running with John McCain is I can assure you he doesn't tell one thing to one group and then turns around and tells something else to another group including his plans that will make this bailout plan, this rescue plan, even better. I want to go back to the energy plan....
Useless answer. She completely dodged the question. I wish I could tell you the presidential candidates were more forthcoming. They're not. Here's Sen. Barack Obama's answer. He's been telling crowds the same thing in every speech. Obama: Will the next president have to scale back his agenda? There's no doubt that some programs or policies I've proposed on the campaign trail may require more time to achieve. The answer is yes and no. Obama then launches into a list of things he won't cut: health care reform, better schools, making college more affordable. You're not giving us an answer, Senator. And if Obama isn't being specific, Sen. John McCain was pretty vague when the question came up during the September 26 debate. McCain: Look, we, no matter what, we've got to cut spending. First of all, by the way, I'd eliminate ethanol subsidies. How about a spending freeze on everything but defense, veteran affairs and entitlement programs? While freezing spending sounds great in theory, financial experts say when you throw Sen. McCain's promised tax cuts into the mix -- and the fact that we are now fighting two wars -- the numbers don't even come close to adding up. So, to both of our presidential candidates, please stop treating us like we are idiots. We know the country is in real trouble. We know you cannot do all the things you are promising. Cut out the bull, prioritize your goals, and tell us honestly what you're going to do.
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If Sarah Palin was Hispanic or African-american, she would obviously not be on the republican ticket, and as such her candidacy would be termed outrageous to so proffer such an unqualified person to so important a post...but republicans slickly change the rules to suit their needs; so instead of superior skill and excellence in the candidate, it is now 'folksy charm' and other such horses@#t that woos voters. These republicans would put a dimwit a heartbeat away from being president of the world's greatest nuclear power. It just goes to show that Republican presidents don't have to have any brains to enjoy broad support among republicans because their constitutents don't expect them to do anything, except let them have free rein in the marketplace...to make money without any rules or constraints...sound familiar? Any elementary school teacher inspires more confidence in me than Sarah Palin does. Let's be real...her performance in the debate was pathetic no matter how the right-wing pundits spin it.
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Did he refer at him as "That One", during the debate last night? yes he did. While that may not be racist on a face value, it was certainly disrespectful and low down, demonstrative of how hot tempered MCcain is. You can blame it on his ageing left brain or just plain stupidity and unprofessional to refer to your co-worker as "That One" instead of his name.
THE CHOICE IS VERY EASY:
McCain: Tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations and none for those making less than $100,000 a year. (and yet he says he is for 'main street') Obama: Tax cuts for the majority of working Americans, modest increases for those earning $200,000 or more a year (less than they were under Clintons tax plan) McCain: Shift health coverage to deregulated private sector with fixed tax credit to all income levels, more Americans would lose coverage (and again, favors the wealthy) Obama: Provide an additional insurance carrier that would allow more people to get insurance, and with tax cuts to employers providing coverage saving them an annual $140 billion, which would also increase revenue for health providers by increasing insured patients. McCain: Wants congress to investigate Enron loophole (even though congress has already tried twice to pass bills that would close it, and both were vetoed by Bush) Obama: Wants to close enron loophole right away, causing an immediate drop in gas prices for all Americans McCain: Wants to drill for more oil, and build nuclear plants (even though we would not see any output from them for 7-10 years) Obama: Faster shift towards alternative energy sources and better utilization of existing resources. McCain: a D- student with a navy background that was dismal in both character and quality (read his book!) Obama: a Harvard Law school graduate, magna cum laude, and a constitutional law expert McCain: Military shoot first ask questions later foreign policy stance Obama: Diplomacy and dialog with military as option of last resort McCain: No foriegn policy experience except for armed services Obama: Member foreign relations, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and subcommitties on European, East Asian and Pacific, African affairs as well as International development and security, specalized in International Relations in college. McCain: Vast majority of introduced bills in Senate are directly related to the military. Obama: Introduced bills for equal rights, environment, housing, health care, alternative and renewable fuels, safer drugs, constitutional rights, improved fuel economy and other issues relating to a better America and helping Americans. Looking at the issues and what they would mean to our country, you would have to be as dumb as my buddy Bush to not vote for Obama.
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As I predicted, the politics of race now enters the contest...and can only help John McCain. Welcome to what was once the real America, and all of it, but now is mainly in Republican and Southern Democratic circles. I am however encouraged at the strides younger Americans have made and are making in terms of fairness and civil liberties. I'm proud to be an American these days.
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Is there any truth to the rumour that BNW forumites have been abducted en masse by aliens? There really is enough evidence to support the notion that something truly extraordinary has occurred. Can you shed any light upon this mass absence?
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I have never believed in UFO, even though my 10 year old is skeptic they do not exist. No, I do not think the forumites have been abducted by the Mother Ship Alien. I know one thing though, their absence in BNW indicates they are either in prison or repatriated back to Nigeria for crimes of getting rich quick, crimes against children, default in child support or they are involved in the death of their nurse wife.
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Look at who is talking - Waypoint1Biafra of all people who runs underground on the streets of St Paul with series of aliases. When a pot calls a kettle black something is really fishing and for sure WP1 is one of the defaults who works under the table. You can run but you can't hide.
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I guess I'm right, I have touched some nerves. Alien Mothership did not abduct anyone afterall. Ednut responded on Child Suppport, still a biggie for him and Crazy Duke regains temporary freedom from the dog house pending court hearing to determine his crime. I am sure he will not be cited here for another month unless his electronic monitor is damaged.{{{{{{smile}}}}}}
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Glad to see there are some of us left but four guys doesn't even constitute a quorum...maybe we should call ourselves fourumites.
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Didn't I warn you in the past about the Republican party and mud-slinging dirty tricks they play; and now we see just how depraved its core following can be. No, you are not dreaming. That core following has always had a prejudicial streak as wide as a superhighway. It just so happens that now what was stealthily hidden below the surface of its hypocritical veneer has burst forth in a frenzy of opposition to Obama that has little rational other than the candidate's race. Party of Lincoln? I don't think so. More like the party of George Wallace 50 years ago. I said early on that the republicans would introduce race into the campaign, but in fact it was there already, like a ravening wild beast not wanting to been seen in the light of day, resisting discovery until it could no longer be hidden. The violent and outrageous outbursts of many of the republican rank and file come as no surprise to me. I hope many of you who claim to be republicans will now understand that you are not in France, or Britain, or Canada, or Scandanavia. Politics in America is a bit more sensitive to race, putting it mildly...and I hope that by the unfolding events many will begin to see conversative Democrats as being fairer from a social and humanist point of view even though you may have to hold your nose at the more extreme liberal stench that has crept in, remembering the old adage that 'politics makes strange bedfellows.
And yet, though I admonish, I choose to see the glass half full instead of half empty, something I think Obama is doing and has been doing, to his great credit. America is changing and large numbers of its citizens are blinding themselves to race, and making their choices based upon merit. This is praiseworthy for a country with a history such as ours and constitutes a new chapter in the experiment of self-government. "Change We Need" reads Obama's campaign slogan. For some the change cannot come soon enough. For others, fear, misery, and hatred mark this period, their political aspirations belonging more to the past than the future.
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Joe 6 pack simply means an exclusion of anyone who is not a white male. Joe 6 pack is actually a redneck, a poor white male of course, who lives in the Mountains or Country town, a tobacco shewing-angry white male who hunts and kills aninals, spits with disgust, sleeps with his gun as if hell is about to break loose, listens to country music,thinks he is more American than you,probably will not take a bath for four days,presumed to work hard more than non white males and he is not lazy, thats what Sarah Palin is referring to as Joe 6 Pack.
He is not the kind of American we know of...[Sarah Palin]. Notice the word "We", meaning we whites, implying that Barrack Obama is not a real American.
Country folks are the real genuine Americans. Palin said, meaning if you do not live in a small town with dusty roads, and rubber like wrinkled face damaged by the sunburn but live in Metro cities, you're not American.
BLAME IT ON OBAMA A McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter "B" scratched on her face in a politically inspired attack, police said Friday. Ashley Todd, 20-year-old college student from College Station, Texas, admitted Friday that the story was false and was being charged with making a false report to police, said Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department's investigations division. Police doubted her story from the start.
Guess what? both MCcain and Sarah Palin called to commend her for her bravery. I will not be suprized if this was not a set up by the MCcain camp. I still have doubts about Joe the Plumber, a plumber who makes over 250K, failed to pay his tax and does not even have a business. "Tuffia". Gotta be a set up by the MCcain camp. I guess he will rather loose his dignity than win an election..remember that!
BACK TO THIS MIGGITTTTTT: What an IQ of a white trash? The reversed B should have been the first clue. Perfect case of writing in the mirror. In addition, any perpetrator will not carve out B [Barrack] on one's face because it takes more time to do and the cop might catch up with him doing it. But it is easier and faster to carve out the letter O [Obama] than B and run away fast. Anyone who looks himself/herself in the mirror will know that when you place an alphabet B on your face it looks backward. Even a 6 grader got that one right.
BLAME IT ON A BLACK MAN How soon we forget. Anyone remember SUSAN SMITH of South Carolina? She placed the whole nation on a code red looking for a black man. She even went on three Big television pleaded for the black man to return her childern. Guess what? she lied about a black man killed her children to be with her lover, she is now serving life to death in the Pen. Anyone remember the husband in Massachusett? who killed his wife, called 911 while in the car covered with blood and in the African American neighborhood, he lied about African American killing his wife. He is serving a life sentence for making up that story. Palin lied about being ready to be VP or even Commander in Chief and then Joe lied about being a plumber, and now this.
Hail Biafra
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Be careful. You may be on the threshold of conversion to the angry black male mold. You must take these things in stride while never breaking your pace. Barack Obama grew up observing these same sorts of biases and stereotypical images but has reached outward in hope rather than turned inward in hate...a lesson for the whole nation if you will. I'm sure Senator Obama is acutely aware of the crustaceous racial refuse of the RNC that(as I warned) began as subliminals in the original "Country First" message but has now come out of the closet like a klan costume. The notion that he must not "cry racism" is the key to the success of his campaign. His white constitutients however, are rightfully doing it for him and ripping the republicans to shreds in the process. In the meantime, through his much heralded "tempermant" Barack Obama avoids the stereotypical box the RNC would love to put him in.
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Once skeptic Africans who thought that Obama will never make it pass Hillary Rodman Clinton are now overwhelmingly voting for OBama. However, they are still skeptic of his chances of winning, they don't trust the white man and their newly found confession to vote for Obama come election day.
Most Africans have lost their jobS due to the bad economy and many are thinking they might have to go home if Obama looses. Because the American people, particularly, the Whites will be hostile to them and will not offer them job for supporting Obama.
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quote:Originally posted by Waypoint1Biafra: WHAT AFRICANS ARE SAYING:
Once skeptic Africans who thought that Obama will never make it pass Hillary Rodman Clinton are now overwhelmingly voting for OBama. However, they are still skeptic of his chances of winning, they don't trust the white man and their newly found confession to vote for Obama come election day.
Most Africans have lost their jobS due to the bad economy and many are thinking they might have to go home if Obama looses. Because the American people, particularly, the Whites will be hostile to them and will not offer them job for supporting Obama.
Hail Biafra
I guess the biafran africans are the ones you are quoting above.
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LET'S SWITCH THINGS AROUND AND SEE: AND WHAT IF THINGS WERE SWITCHED AROUND. THINK ABOUT IT.
What if the Obama''s had paraded five children across the stage, including a three-month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter? What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review? What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class? What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee? What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards? What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married? What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to painkillers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization? What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard? What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker? What if Obama couldn''t read from a teleprompter? What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes? What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem? What if Michelle Obama''s family had made their money from beer distribution? What if the Obama''s had adopted a white child? Why is this election not a landslide?
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Is there a particular reason why you damn liberals would not leave Sarah palin alone?
Crazy Duke, I should have that guessed you and Sarah Palin would have a lot in common.
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After 355 years or more, that continent Africa with African leaders had sold their souls and children for slavery to the New World over a mirrow, scotch drink and some tobbacco, 335 years later that same continent provided America their first true African American President from an engineer father from Kenya and a Caucausain Doctor of Philosophy mother from Kansas, both well read.
Call him Osama, Hussien,the messiah, the chosen one, the savior or the change agent; His catch phrase was "Yes We can" and America spoke last night with "Yes We did". The popular and electoral votes by Americans proved that Democracy is alive and well in America, a country where a minority can become President but what will the African leaders learn from his victory and hard work besides jumping up and down for his victory? But I know one thing, Africans in America can have a breath of fresh air and move on with their lives, take pride that one of their own is an American President.
Obama chattered every records in the history books of American politics. Check it out:
As a Demorcat, he won two states in the South, North Carolina and Virginia and more electoral votes than any dead or living US President. He won more popular votes and electoral votes combined than any other President. George Bush won the electoral votes while Al Gore won the popular votes.
OBAMA 349 electoral votes to MCcain 148, a landslide and very historical.
Battle ground states: Florida 51%, Ohio 51%, Penn 55%, Virginia 52% and North Carolina. He lost Missouri by one point
THE LOWEST STATES: Oklahoma has the lowest vote for Obama, 34%, followed by Alabama and Arkansa 39% each.
OVERALL: OBAMA 52% AND MCcAIN 46%
Hail Biafra
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As a Demorcat, he won two states in the South, North Carolina and Virginia and more electoral votes than any dead or living US President. He won more popular votes and electoral votes combined than any other President. George Bush won the electoral votes while Al Gore won the popular votes.
OBAMA 349 electoral votes to MCcain 148, a landslide and very historical.
Waypoint1,
Obama did get a landslide. However there have been many presidential landslides of greater proportions in terms of electoral votes.
Nixon/McGovern 520 to 17
Reagan/Carter 489 to 49
Reagan/Mondale 525 to 13
Johnson/Goldwater 486 to 52
There are many others.
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Recently I wrote in this thread concerning the republican party...
quote:Originally posted by Greg: ... Party of Lincoln? I don't think so. More like the party of George Wallace 50 years ago...
...and these are the so-called red states that John McCain carried in the presidential election.
It should be plain as the nose on your face that part of what used to be called the 'Solid South,' now called the deep South, forms a major part of the republican party, a region where Lincoln is often vilified as a dictator, and Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States of America, is still a revered as a hero; and though I am conservative to a large degree as it concerns social and economic policy, I find it difficult to call myself republican by any stretch of the imagination especially when I consider the social values of the base. It is not the party of Lincoln. It is its diametric opposite. My conservative religious and economic concerns do not outweigh antequated and inherently unjust social values found predominately within the base of the republican party. The geographical and historical evidence of what I am saying cannot easily be dismissed. My republican-leaning friends on this board will I hope read my opinions as an honest criticism based upon fact, not simply innuendo and mis-information.
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Greg I noticed that long before the election through the Polls and CNN mapping of the electoral votes.
Look at Oklahoma state sympathizer for General Lee, they had their lowest number of vote for Obama. The deep South, Georgia, West Virginia, Louisiana, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Alabama, Arkansas and of course Kentucky spoke volume for General Lee. By the way, Florida does not pride itself as a southern state. And the reason Obama won the state of Virginia is the incursion from the suburbs of Washington and Maryland.
Formerly a moderate Reagan Republican just for his physical policy. I have decided to relinquish my GOP membership for their lack of sensitivity and their inablity to attract minorities in the party. I am still against gay marriage and stands for marriage between a man and a woman, obortion with moderation, opposed to Islamic religious beliefs until they change their fucking ways. The change of status means I am a Republican for physical policy and a Democrat for certain social issues....I am an INDEPENDENT LIBERTARIAN. Any questions?
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