quote:Originally posted by Confederate: Until u lead a civil war I'll be damned if you talk to anyone you coward! [/QB]
Which gun runner are you representing on this board???!!! Why haven't you led a war to free the millions of African-Americans and Latinos picking oranges in the various plantations in US???!!! What help did your masters render to the oppressed people of the world except to SELL ARMS to them???!!! Why are you crying more than the bereaved???!!! Why has the US not emancipated the people of Dafur in Sudan, no OIL???!!! Why haven't the US installed a democracy in Saudi Arabia, because the present monarchy is playing ball???!!! We know why you are here. As they say, Onye bulu ihe isi, ijiji esoro ya.
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OKAY FIRST OFF, I'm no gun runner. I called your ass out on being a coward. I always wondered what an African would do if I did. Second, no Blacks in the US pick fruit and the Latinos have got no buisness coming here if all they can do is degrade themselves. Also most Blacks are related to West Africans and have inherited none of the Indian courage and all of the African cowardice. To make it plain and simple I just dont trust 'em. I'd lead a reblion and half would shake their heads 1/10 would snitch, 2/10 would protest to death without results and still not learn like in Florida in 2000 and another quarter would just be to scared to help. This is why George Wallace wasnt assisinated and the Klan was NEVER fought. This is why Black armed troops let White hicks in towns near the base push them around. Of the one African kingdom to survive the worse thing was there was not even an Abyssinian capital because the second Menelik II stade in 1 place someone would try to crown themselves king and try to pull a stunt! If you've been sold so many arms why is not their a Biafra? If you've been sold so many arms why weren't you smart enough to turn them on "my" masters? If you've been sold so many arms why does nothing result of your civil wars but bogged down killings fests? If you've been sold so many weapons surely by now your people would've been smart or clever enough to know that you could trick them by making it seem as if Igbos and Deltas were at war and then subsequently turning your guns on Nigeria as a doubled force and abolishing your debacle of a country! You want to know why Sudan gets no help? Maybe because we arn't your daddy. Maybe because we are IN A WAR! Maybe because the AU who swore about Rwanda "never again" is a load. Maybe a ditto for the UN. But you want to hear my opinion as a Black American? I think the genocide in Sudan is a RACE WAR and I really dont think anyone should help them because they've got to do it on their owns. I dont mean that as an insult either. Why hasnt Africa instaled a democracy in Saudi Arabia? Why not in Ethipia for the last 13 years? Why diddn't the OAU turn Ethipia into a republic? Maybe the Saudis actually own Arabia and its not our place to take was they leggaly own??? As they say "when we came we had the land and they had the bible but when we opened back up our eyes they had the land and we had the bible." In my opinion had you read the book they brought you you would've known to strike them dead with it! FOOLS...
P.S. Bosnia diddnt have oil. Jelous?
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quote:Chima has simply voiced an opinion. He has not engaged in any personal attacks. He has wisely ignored your mean-spirited insinuations. You have as loudly condemned Ojukwu, as Chima has supported him. The difference is that you have not stopped at attacking Ojukwu, but you must also personally attack one of his supporters. You may not like his view but please try and be fair to your brother and stop trying to belittle him. � Greg
Let something get cleared right here, we are still supporters of Ojukwu, all we are saying is that his blunder in relation to what happened in APGA, begs for attention, PERIOD! Chima as far as I have known him is someone like many who�s very passionate about Biafra, Igbo, Ojukwu etc I just hope that we do not allow this Ojukwu engineered mess to inflict permanent scar on us here. Hurtful stuff has been said by many comrades and this shouldn't be so, guys. I�ve never supported the innuendos between brothers or any direct insult on Ojukwu but going back to the �personal attacks,� it went both ways, bro. Njoku gave as much as he received although I did rather see us do it in moderation with love.
Assignment to all, when you allude to �personal attacks� on Ojukwu I want us from now to list or highlight those �attacks.� As for me, the way I have interpreted most write ups on this board is that people strongly disagreed with Ojukwu�s handling of APGA�s misunderstanding. He was the architect of that division and should have risen to arrest the situation but no, he went ahead and added more adulterated kerosene to a burning flame with the "street show" at Presidential Hotel, Enugu. That to me was un-statesman! Where does Ikemba�s responsibility lie? None?
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Greg is very selective in his interpretation of what fall under personal attacks. This is not the first time he would show these traits. On the initiation of this thread, Okwy insulted persons on this forum even to the extend of using "ekwensu" to describe some. Greg did not see anything wrong with this but came out with a similiar statement as soon as people had a go at Okwy.
Now, He seems to have ignored all the rantings of Chima Njoku and has come out because people asked Chima Njoku
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Folks The fact remains that Ojukwu's bravery, brilliance,and his strong will, prevented the total anihilation of all us Ndi-Igbo, by the hausas and their yoruba cohort,then the British and Russian war machine which was unleashed on our people. Yet i read people run their mouth here insulting Ojukwu. The truth is that without this single act of this great son of Ndi-igbo you and i will not be here today. You may choose to forget our history and all we went through as a people, that is your problem. None of you will rewrite our history on the internet.
WACKO You need to take a deep breath and relax. You are too abusive and too personal on people for anybody's comfort.It seems you have very poor debating skills.
MeBiafran Remain blessed for speaking out. Love you brother.
What Chima wrote about people being enemy combatants was categorical, but what you guys have insinuated about him is personal. There is a difference.
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What Chima wrote about people being enemy combatants was categorical, but what you guys have insinuated about him is personal. There is a difference.
Greg:
What gives? It seems to me that "categorically insinuate" is an oxymoron. Is there really a difference between telling a man that he comes from a family of fools (personal) and telling him that he and all members of his family are fools (categorical)?
Wacko et al:
Since, on behalf of Chima Njoku, Greg has expressed a preference for categorical insults over personal insults, you should henceforth be very categorical when responding to Chima's attacks on this board. For example, instead of calling Chima Njoku a sabo, you should call him a categorical sabo.
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quote: WACKO You need to take a deep breath and relax. You are too abusive and too personal on people for anybody's comfort.It seems you have very poor debating skills.
This is a bit rich from someone who has never presented any evidence to back up any of the claims he makes. It is this trait that made you come out with such rubbish as
quote:Ojukwu is Igbo and Igbo without Ojukwu is not an Igbo worth living.
quote:For ALL OF YOU WHO INSULT OJUKWU, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT ENEMY COMBANTANT OF NDI-IGBO.
quote:Wacko,
What Chima wrote about people being enemy combatants was categorical, but what you guys have insinuated about him is personal. There is a difference.
Absolute rubbish! All he needs to do is answer in the affirmative if he is related and no if he is not. By your statement, I take it he is related to Raymond Njoku, but frankly that will not do. We need facts. Some one has posed this question and I think it is important this young man responds before people come away with the explanation which Ike gave as the possible reason for his irrational utterances on this forum.
All I can say I know about the chapis that he is a member of BF ,that organisation which began with high hopes around 2001 and whose numbers have since been dwindling because they were unreceptive of ideas that did not originate from a sychophantic core.
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This is what gives...categorical insults can be ignored and side-stepped as if meant for the other guy. Personal ones can't. They zero-in on their subject. It's a matter of preference as to whether one wants to include himself in a category, but there no such choice when the attack is personal. Sabi?
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quote:ALL OF YOU WHO INSULT OJUKWU, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT ENEMY COMBANTANT OF NDI-IGBO.
Greg:
Perhaps you could explain how it is harder for Chima Njoku to exclude himself from the crimes of Raymond Njoku than for the people that Chima perceives to have insulted Ojukwu to escape being enemy combatants. Is it not Chima's choice whether to associate himself with the crimes of Raymond Njoku?
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My plea is for these two erudite and ebullient brothers, Wacko/chima njoku especially, then all to let this thing recede. Ozole nu! For the longest, I've begged all to let this and other useless threads fade without anyone listening to me. As an elder, I deserve to be listened to according to Igbo custom and tradition which if you don't mind, I did like to apply here. Please! No one would deny what tweaked Wacko�s barrage as I saw it, had the debate centered on Ikemba without deviation there wouldn�t have been the need to take off the gloves. It was equally wrong to have questioned chima's relationship with Raymond Njoku although I had expected chima to come back swinging that yes, he's related to the impeccable, the one and only RAYMOND AMANZE NJOKU, the famed Emekuku born Minister of Transport in the first republic. With that the joke would�ve reverted to those who started it, I think. I�ll die for Ojukwu when he�s RIGHT but would however run without looking back when he�s not only wrong, but dead wrong.
quote: The fact remains that Ojukwu's bravery, brilliance,and his strong will, prevented the total anihilation of all us Ndi-Igbo, by the hausas and their yoruba cohort,then the British and Russian war machine which was unleashed on our people. - chima njoku
Nwa nnem, please take it lite your outrage of recent if you ask me is being misdirected at the wrong people. I don't see anyone disagreeing with the quoted comment what people are however saying is not about Biafra rather the way Ojukwu handled the APGA fallout. Still disagree? Now, let me challenge anyone in here that has taken more insults from the islamists in defence of Ojukwu, Igbo, Biafra to please direct us to all the Internet articles (not chat room) he/she might have posted. The only person that I know who have absorbed more attacks from our foes than myself is Peter Opara so let's have this in mind. I�m disappointed that we reduced this to anti-Igbo with one's expression of disgust over how things was handled by certain individuals. Does disagreeing with one's father on a particular subject translate to insult? I don't think so! Who among us have not at a point or another opposed his father�s mishandling of a family related issue? Please take my advice and relax a little, ok? Wacko, you do the same please. Let�s relish the areas where we have common grounds, y�all. Had folks listened to me when I counseled sometimes ago for us to avoid offensive threads started by Igbo/Ojukwu haters Ineba Jimoh�s topic would have languished in darkness, but no, our too sabi never allowed us to pause and here we are. One of our brothers whom I admire so much even publicly reprimanded me for my suggestion after I followed my warning with PM to selected members. BTW, that thread �IGBO: Always Ignore Enemies' New Topics� generated ZERO hit. Unimportant I guess.
Chima, you�re still a brother Ojukwu or not I challenge all to embrace this ideology too. With that said, I believe in consonance with our culture for all of us to reach out with a HANDSHAKE so, I start, a vigorous handshake from me to all my brothers and friends.
I guess Okwy took off like Ben Johnson (LOL) after he realized he opened a can of worms. This should do it, people; the next guy that ignores this plea is the troublemaker. LOL.
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It was equally wrong to have questioned chima's relationship with Raymond Njoku although I had expected chima to come back swinging that yes, he's related to the impeccable, the one and only RAYMOND AMANZE NJOKU, the famed Emekuku born Minister of Transport in the first republic. With that the joke would�ve reverted to those who started it, I think.
"Impeccable", huh! You must mean impeccable embezzlement.
I guess we don't want to talk about the part where Raymond Amanze Njoku of Emekuku and CC Mojekwu of Nnewi embezzled Biafran government money they were supposed to use to buy arms. No amount of cover-up will stop the men of Biafra from answering for their greedy service to our people.
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quote:I guess we don't want to talk about the part where Raymond Amanze Njoku of Emekuku and CC Mojekwu of Nnewi embezzled Biafran government money they were supposed to use to buy arms.
Please link me to where info about Raymond Njoku's involvement is so I can read for myself. According to my recollections it was Mojekwu who fortunately died in a ghastly auto accident on a Chicago highway years later that absconded with our money then. My friend, believe me I'm not one that cover up for anyone. Why? If Raymond is so implicated my accolades will be withdrawn without sweat.
Biafra:
Thank you much. I too thought so. The man was epitome of affability. See, they confuse him with the military Njoku.
Wacko:
No, no! Cease fire is still enforce please don't. Thank you.
B-boyz:
quote:Unfortunately this is BiafraNigeriaWorld and not Igbo world. Elder ko, elder ni.
LOLOLOL.
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I have said what I know about Chima Njoku. He accused me of not being good at debating yet he made a harsh job of attempting to defend Ojukwu. The fact he did this when other Biafra's of proven commitments were very conspicous in there absence tells you a lot about him. As if that was not enough, he came out with a lot of nonsense which smacked of "fatwa" and insinuating that because of the civil war role of Ojukwu, we should not question his actions.
He should have been aware that in waving his role during the war in such a debate, he opens up an re-examination of some war time activities which some people may view as controversial. It also poses the question , if Ojukwu was capable of making those mistakes (of which I would not say I hold against him, ) can he then be said to be infallible as we are being made to believe by Chima Njoku etc? If he is not infallible can we not then call him to order when we see him going the wrong direction?
BTW; Is Chima Njoku related to Alexie Njoku?
On Greg, I would say that his attempt at playing guardian of good manners is at best nauseating. His hypocrisy is so obvious that I wonder if he gets Chima to sling his mud for him. (remember the numerous Check your Pm posts?) Each time someone responds to Chima's insults with an insult, Greg is quick to join it.
Here are some examples;
quote: It is interesting to watch ANTS rant with an icon's name IKEMBA ODUMEGWU OJUKWU. However, if in your own little world abusing and bashing OJUKWU is solution to all your problems here in America and beyond i assure you your life is screwed.
quote: Greg, You spoke my mind.I can't thank you enough. You handled the mad man here very gently
quote:Ineba Jimoh, Please shut your mouth UP . You do not know who Ojukwu is. I am sure you have only seen Ojukwu's pic. in newspapers. You can't even come close to seeing him through out your life time. Keep busy and take care of your family. If you have nothing sensible to write, get off your key board. Enough of your ant ranting.
To which ineba responded,
quote: ] Chima Njoku:
You shut your mouth, midget
Before you could say IgboAfricanAmerican,Greg jumps in,
quote:Now who's throwing insults. One standard for us, and another for them.
I can't stand hypocrisy!
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I haven't started yet, I still maintained that Amanze Njoku was a good man, I was a young kid during the civil war, but I was also old enough to know some of the things that tranpired that time. For example while many shout from Tower of Babylon, I was at Eke Ahiara Mbaise the Night Ojukwu delivered Ahiara Declaration speech. My cousin was one of the people holding lamp (lantern) light so that Ojukwu could deliver his speech. The event started almost at midnight and ended almost at 4.00Am, because of if it had been held during the day, the vandals would have bombed us.
I am never one to claim that Ojukwu or any Igbo leader for that matter is infallible. All I say lets critize them when time calls for that, but lets not engage in personal attacks and insults, I still maintain that. Ndi -Igbo si omu nkwu ghuro nkpo akirika. Lets leave it at that.
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quote:Originally posted by Confederate: OKAY FIRST OFF, I'm no gun runner. I called your ass out on being a coward. I always wondered what an African would do if I did. Second, no Blacks in the US pick fruit and the Latinos have got no buisness coming here if all they can do is degrade themselves. Also most Blacks are related to West Africans and have inherited none of the Indian courage and all of the African cowardice. To make it plain and simple I just dont trust 'em. I'd lead a reblion and half would shake their heads 1/10 would snitch, 2/10 would protest to death without results and still not learn like in Florida in 2000 and another quarter would just be to scared to help. This is why George Wallace wasnt assisinated and the Klan was NEVER fought. This is why Black armed troops let White hicks in towns near the base push them around. Of the one African kingdom to survive the worse thing was there was not even an Abyssinian capital because the second Menelik II stade in 1 place someone would try to crown themselves king and try to pull a stunt! If you've been sold so many arms why is not their a Biafra? If you've been sold so many arms why weren't you smart enough to turn them on "my" masters? If you've been sold so many arms why does nothing result of your civil wars but bogged down killings fests? If you've been sold so many weapons surely by now your people would've been smart or clever enough to know that you could trick them by making it seem as if Igbos and Deltas were at war and then subsequently turning your guns on Nigeria as a doubled force and abolishing your debacle of a country! You want to know why Sudan gets no help? Maybe because we arn't your daddy. Maybe because we are IN A WAR! Maybe because the AU who swore about Rwanda "never again" is a load. Maybe a ditto for the UN. But you want to hear my opinion as a Black American? I think the genocide in Sudan is a RACE WAR and I really dont think anyone should help them because they've got to do it on their owns. I dont mean that as an insult either. Why hasnt Africa instaled a democracy in Saudi Arabia? Why not in Ethipia for the last 13 years? Why diddn't the OAU turn Ethipia into a republic? Maybe the Saudis actually own Arabia and its not our place to take was they leggaly own??? As they say "when we came we had the land and they had the bible but when we opened back up our eyes they had the land and we had the bible." In my opinion had you read the book they brought you you would've known to strike them dead with it! FOOLS...
P.S. Bosnia diddnt have oil. Jelous?
Back your words Olu!
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I haven't started yet, I still maintained that Amanze Njoku was a good man, I was a young kid during the civil war, but I was also old enough to know some of the things that tranpired that time. For example while many shout from Tower of Babylon, I was at Eke Ahiara Mbaise the Night Ojukwu delivered Ahiara Declaration speech. My cousin was one of the people holding lamp (lantern) light so that Ojukwu could deliver his speech. The event started almost at midnight and ended almost at 4.00Am, because of if it had been held during the day, the vandals would have bombed us.
I am never one to claim that Ojukwu or any Igbo leader for that matter is infallible. All I say lets critize them when time calls for that, but lets not engage in personal attacks and insults, I still maintain that. Ndi -Igbo si omu nkwu ghuro nkpo akirika. Lets leave it at that.
Ibia Kwa, I don't understand the relevance of your last post in the present issue more so the relevance of Ojukwu in this as both Chinyere and I made no mention of him in the relevant posts.
Chinyere made a claim that Raymond Njoku embezzled Biafran funds earmarked forthe purchase of arms for the war effort and the only defence you could muster was that he was not one of the corrupt first republic public officials. I asked you to go and read the post again as I felt that since you knew the man, you could offer a better defence of vhis character than what you had posted. Your attempt at defence of the man was simple a "non defence." Contrast this with MeBiafran who came out to say he has not read/heard anything untowards about him.
We go back a long way and I would never doubt your being a witness to the event that occured during those dark days.What I simply implied was that you perform better at defending the man by dealing with the specific allegation that was levelled against him.
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In all fairness to you, I can see why you consider some of my comments hypocritical. But I have to tell you that those PM's were to other people and not to Chima. I don't recall ever sending Chima a PM. As for the exchange between Chima and Ineba Jimoh, I don't see how that is hypocritical. At that time people were saying that I cast "veiled insults" at them, and I was a bit sensitive about it. I don't see anywhere in Chima's comment to Ineba an outright insult. Yes, he told him to shut up, but he also said "Please." Ineba, on the other hand, introduced name-calling as anyone can see from the quotes...
quote:Ineba Jimoh, Please shut your mouth UP . You do not know who Ojukwu is. I am sure you have only seen Ojukwu's pic. in newspapers. You can't even come close to seeing him through out your life time. Keep busy and take care of your family. If you have nothing sensible to write, get off your key board. Enough of your ant ranting. --Chima
quote:You shut your mouth, midget --Ineba Jimoh
I guess the question to be answered is what constitutes an insult. If someone said to me, "Please shut up, Greg," I would not necessarily call that an insult to my person, but if someone called me a name like "a**hole, or something like that along with it, I would be offended. That was the difference I saw. But because I respect you and your writings, I will try and be more circumspect about what insults people.
I smiled when I read this cos it cracked me up.
quote:Before you could say IgboAfricanAmerican,Greg jumps in,
As I said, I'll try to be more fair in the future.
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Chima Njoku has got to learn how to conduct himself with decorum during public debates. If he continues to use personal attacks as a substitute for robust arguments, he should expect to be hit hard in return.
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Hmmm! The room is cooling off as I had hoped. Thanks guys.
Chaa Chaa Chaa, Igbo nma nma nu!
Yaa!
Chaa Chaa Chaa, Igbo kele nu!
Yaa!
Rie nu!
Yaa!
Gnụ nu!
Yaa!
Onye mara asụ ya sụụ na ikwe. I love all you Igbo brothers and sisters and all the decent folks out there too. I'm so happy right at this moment. Let's watch it, there's nothing wrong with disagreeing but everything wrong with violent and insulting attacks on a comrade who's not crossed that fine line to be tagged a sabo yet.
Ik,
Please let this thing be we have made some tremendous progress already any attempt to revive it would be unfair and uncalled for. Biko nwa nnem.
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Nwa Aro the "devil" (apologies Ogbinigwe) has come to remind those who often see opposition and those who oppose their views as "evil" that history has shown that a society without the likes of Nwa Aro (who has formed the habit of opposing everything, including things considered by some on this board as a "no-go area" or taboo) is a DEAD society. As I earlier opined on this board, the greatest problem we Igbos have is that we love to be addressed as "leaders" without first learning what it means to follow.
Even back home in Igboland, we Igbos have a proverb that says that "obodo na ewehi oyera, bu obodo wuru anwu" (translated to mean that a society/country that does not have a madman is a dead society/country). So if there's anything to be learned from this Ojukwu-instigated crises, it is that Igboland needs the likes of Nwa Aro "the devil incanate" (who ask hard but neccesary questions and are ready to stake their necks in defence of same), just as it needs those who claim or are sold as "saints" or the "good" ones simply because they are good at playing safe and dancing to the tune of EVERYONE and EVERYTIME.
For while the likes of Okwy who have reduced themselves to some sort of voodo priests who are good at associating everything bad that happens to Igbo people and Igboland to the handiwork of some fictitious "enemy" (thereby fail to address the cause(es) of our problems) may think that they are doing Nd'Igbo any good, I still posit that those "enemies" ARE NOT our problem but those who conjure up those stale tales whenever a crisis erupts in our part of the world. Because while some still believe that we discussing our problems in some closed doors (Nwa Aro has sworn never to be part of any closed forum or discussion fora) and in hushed tones is the best way to get over our them, I on the other hand held (and from the looks of things it seems many have joined Nwa Aro in that line of thinking) and still hold the view that instead of asking Igbos not to "wash our dirty linin in the public", (as Biafra and some before him admonished) what anyone who truly want a positive change in Igboland should be doing is to preach against and make sure that we do not have those "dirty linins" in the first place. And whereby we have one (and we have many), we should not advertise them like christmas dresses or plaques (or suger-coating it) as it is being done today in Igboland and everywhere Nd'Igbo are gathered.
Coming to Ukaobasi's apology, though I applaud him for it, I will nonetheless for record purpose repost two of the mails I earlier posted on this thread so that it can be contrasted with that of Ukaobasi's to show that Nwa Aro "the moron" saw what Ukaobasi now see.
Quote: -------------------------------------- "To me this particular paragraph is the smoking gun that suggested a coup had been pulled by people whom Okorie had had no reason to fear or distrust in his dealings with them "---Ukaobasi. ------------------------------------------
It was Nwa Aro who first inserted the word "coupists" on this thread when I wrote;
Quote: ----------------------------------------- "...one doesn't not need to be a referee to know which camp, the COUPISTS led by Umeh-Ojukwu or the legitimate government headed by an ELECTED Chekwas Okorie that won at the end of the day."---Nwa Aro, Febraury 24, 2005. ----------------------------------------
And finally, below was my party word of advice to Ukobasi and co:
Quote: -------------------------------- "...So those who tried AND FAILED to mislead the Igbo people (by taking side with Ojukwu)) could either be men and accept that they, like their 'hero' GOT IT WRONG, ..." ---Nwa Aro, February 24, 2005. ------------------------------------
And I am happy that he finally BECAME A MAN when he wrote,
Quote: ---------------------------------- "OJUKWU DID BETRAY CHEKWAS OKORIE!!! AND IN THE HANDLING OF THIS PARTICULAR MATTER OJUKWU DID MISLEAD, DISRESPECT, AND ABUSE ND'IGBO'S TRUST!!! UNRESERVED APOLOGIES TO CHEKWAS OKORIE: OPPORTUNITY STILL BECKONS!!! For any injurious insinuations possibly deriveable upon the reputation of Chekwas Okorie by my suggestions already nullified above, my unreserved apologies are also hereby rendered. ---Ukaobasi. -----------------------------------
Igboland, and by extension this board will be a better place if we have great minds like Ukaobasi who can demonstrate what TRUE AND RESPONSIBLE LEADERSHIP means by accepting mistakes when they make one instead of conjuring up stories (like the okwys are good at doing) just to remain relevant.
This thread in my opinion became REDUCTANT after Okwy who started this USELESS thread went into hiding and Ukaobasi whom in my opinion prolonged it finally threw in the towel.
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Mebiafra Answered that Question, Amanze Njoku never embezzled the fund meant for weapon. CC Mojekwu was and uptil his death in Chicago by motor accident, the person responsible for that issue. Unfortunately Njoku died in 1977 and Mojekwu died in 1981. Many of us will never get a full account of that event.
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People whose credibility were flattened on the Ojukwu matter now use words like "never" to describe what Raymond Amanze Njoku did in Biafra. Why don't one of you loud mouths tell us what role a big person like a former minister in Nigeria played when his people were being butchered in a war?
It is really shameful that all that Biafra could say is that he (Biafra) went to school in Emekuku and therefore Raymond Njoku was not a sabo. People, this level of reasoning is very disturbing.
___________________ Jesus is Lord Posts: 98 | From: Dallas, Texas | Registered: Aug 2002
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Chinyere I am not going to get into personal insult and attacks with you, I still retain my gentlemaness not attack a woman. The reason I mentioned that I went to school in Emekuku was to highlight that I Knew Amanze Njoku before his untimely death. Amanze Njoku was not a corrupt man, Amanze Njoku did not look the other way during the war.
___________________ On Aburi We Stand. Posts: 3003 | From: Inland Empire California | Registered: Mar 2001
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In that case, I went to elementary school in Illinois and I Knew CC Mojekwu before his untimely death. Therefore, CC Mojekwu was not a corrupt man, CC Mojekwu did not look the other way during the war.
___________________ Jesus is Lord Posts: 98 | From: Dallas, Texas | Registered: Aug 2002
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How many secondary schools did you attend? I recall you going to high school in Akwa Igbom, Ogun State, Oyo State, Aba and knw Emekuku. Na wa for you o.
Chyinyere,
I been think say you be young babe. But ..
___________________ Feel me? Ofu onye ana asi unu abia go. - Ednut Igbo-American . www.airamericaradio.com visit her. Posts: 2513 | From: Mother Earth | Registered: Mar 2001
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That expression is a favorite with the Hispanic people out here, so I guess it would be Spanish rice, and like this thread has been, kind of hot, and a little spicey.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 796 | From: Valle del Sol, AZ | Registered: Nov 2004
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