quote:Originally posted by olusolaa: This is a huge distraction!
Originally posted by Confederate: OKAY FIRST OFF, I'm no gun runner. I called your ass out on being a coward. I always wondered what an African would do if I did. Second, no Blacks in the US pick fruit and the Latinos have got no buisness coming here if all they can do is degrade themselves. Also most Blacks are related to West Africans and have inherited none of the Indian courage and all of the African cowardice. To make it plain and simple I just dont trust 'em. I'd lead a reblion and half would shake their heads 1/10 would snitch, 2/10 would protest to death without results and still not learn like in Florida in 2000 and another quarter would just be to scared to help. This is why George Wallace wasnt assisinated and the Klan was NEVER fought. This is why Black armed troops let White hicks in towns near the base push them around. Of the one African kingdom to survive the worse thing was there was not even an Abyssinian capital because the second Menelik II stade in 1 place someone would try to crown themselves king and try to pull a stunt! If you've been sold so many arms why is not their a Biafra? If you've been sold so many arms why weren't you smart enough to turn them on "my" masters? If you've been sold so many arms why does nothing result of your civil wars but bogged down killings fests? If you've been sold so many weapons surely by now your people would've been smart or clever enough to know that you could trick them by making it seem as if Igbos and Deltas were at war and then subsequently turning your guns on Nigeria as a doubled force and abolishing your debacle of a country! You want to know why Sudan gets no help? Maybe because we arn't your daddy. Maybe because we are IN A WAR! Maybe because the AU who swore about Rwanda "never again" is a load. Maybe a ditto for the UN. But you want to hear my opinion as a Black American? I think the genocide in Sudan is a RACE WAR and I really dont think anyone should help them because they've got to do it on their owns. I dont mean that as an insult either. Why hasnt Africa instaled a democracy in Saudi Arabia? Why not in Ethipia for the last 13 years? Why diddn't the OAU turn Ethipia into a republic? Maybe the Saudis actually own Arabia and its not our place to take was they leggaly own??? As they say "when we came we had the land and they had the bible but when we opened back up our eyes they had the land and we had the bible." In my opinion had you read the book they brought you you would've known to strike them dead with it! FOOLS...
P.S. Bosnia diddnt have oil. Jelous?
COME ON PUNK BACK YOUR WORDS
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quote:Why don't one of you loud mouths� - Chinyere
People, here we go yet again! This broad has taken to the same �personal attacks� but once the tides turn against her here come the one-sided moralist that would preach to us how not to respond. Did I challenge this person to link us to where information to buttress her nonsense was so that I (we) may read for ourselves? I thought so!
Biafra:
At this point it might be necessary to ignore the irritant since she�s unable to meet a simply request to direct us where she got the twisted idea that RAYMOND AMANZE NJOKU was �corrupt.� This person does not know this man, period. How come she was able to lift a line from your post without any mention of mine? As for being a gentleman, forget it, brother. If a lady disrespects herself so much as to insult someone for no apparent reason, then what she gets is tons of s.h.i.t! It is not unusual for someone to attend several high schools in Nigeria as Ed would like to obfuscate issues, maybe he�s just jiving in that case it is all good.
FYI All:
Lately a couple of junk that�s supposed to challenge my patience has been written by a person I still regard as a brother for writing sake without much substance. As I have repeatedly said, I�m not here to pick some cheap fights with folks that I�m supposed to be united with in our quest to free our people at the same time. There would be time for that after our collective dreams are actualized if it remains attractive to do so then but for now I'll continue to be the big brother with occassional right to spank lightly (lol). The difference between a boy and a man is the ability to recognize certain aspects of the opposition�s view without discounting in its entirety all someone has written simply because you don�t like that individual. It does not take much to see something written by a tout so you know.
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Ednut I attended at least three High school in Biafranigeria. If you went to High school in Biafranigeria in the 70s you will know that it wasn't unusual to go more than one School.
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quote:I guess Okwy took off like Ben Johnson (LOL) after he realized he opened a can of worms. This should do it, people; the next guy that ignores this plea is the troublemaker. LOL.
MeBiafra, You claim to be elder, yet, a five years old can do better than this; do you think i am that kind of stuff that will run away from what I'm convinced of. Let me tell you what i think, if the opinion of only two people will change in this forum, i count you as first to make a ninety decrees somersault. For your information, i have been banned and unbanned in this forum for several weeks now without explanation from the administration, i even wrote a letter demanding an explanation of such treatment, till date, i have not recieved any reply so you can understand my absence. But then,you know what you would have done before talking about something you know nothing about.
My Brother Ukaobasi, I hold every thing you wrote ante as valid and convincing,i also think that you would have changed your opinion without the trouble of apologizing to Chekwas Okorie, else, i think you also owe an apology to Olusegun Obasanjo. After all these years of detailing the chronicle of his actions and expressing your personal opinions on his government.
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku Posts: 622 | From: santiago, chile | Registered: Jan 2002
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Since when did we turn such vicious enemies? Does abbreviating your name (Okwy) not give you a hint, fella? Tell you what, take your anger out on those around you or responsible for your PMS I'm above that.
quote:...do you think i am that kind of stuff that will run away from what I'm convinced of.
So "convinced" yet you omitted to back your false claim that Ojukwu was ganged up on instead of the other way around. Meaning Ojukwu, umeh, nwokolo and GANG converged on Okorie who ultimately came out the VICTOR. After the barrage of much sensible posts by people that count you still miss the boat with your latest post. To me, after the respected Uka made his submission I became satisfied.
You definitely lack the basic sense of humor, which we welcome here every once. You never paid mind to this acronym � LOL, because your angst wouldn�t let you see the light humor in �I guess Okwy took off like Ben Johnson (LOL)?� Me somersault? I believe the right word is maintenance of objectivity since the people you call your enemies (Hausa, Yoruba, and to some extent Igbo) do exhibit some valid points in their posts too. I just can�t educate everyone on everything. Your angry post wrongly portrayed me as having something to do with your banishment which is not hard to figure had you paid attention to the rules ala DUPLICATE THREAD. A little advice if you don�t mind, stop your attack on every Igbo whom you disagree with, you might need them down the road. It might be necessary to refer you to my record of defending common sense here to disabuse your mind of the misconstruction of me. It was the same me who came to your rescue during Addy�s sortie. Oops he forgot but I�m not mad at ya, guy just scratchy that�s all.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2491 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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1) First law - Nigeria politics is God Fatherism et al. Okorie should have keep quiet like Chief Dariye - apologied to his god father about eating so much money, but no he had to be gun ho. And waited to inherit his God Father's supporter.
He should consult me on politics 101 - fee $1000 per consultancy memo.
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I guess Okwyonwuka has started smoking that stuff again.
quote:Originally posted by okwyonwuka:
For your information, i have been banned and unbanned in this forum for several weeks now without explanation from the administration, i even wrote a letter demanding an explanation of such treatment, till date, i have not recieved any reply so you can understand my absence.
From the BNW webmaster:
quote:Joy:
In response to your question, the username Okwyonwuka was not banned and there is no outstanding complaint against him/her. Also, we did not receive any e-mail from him/her.
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So, Okwy, what are you talking about? You say you have "been banned and unbanned in this forum for several weeks now." Yet, you created this topic on February 23 and posted to it several times since then including your last post filled with lies, which you made yesterday. Please, show us the letter you sent to the administrator.
You were the same person who attacked people on this forum for raising money to support Ojukwu during his campaign for president under APGA. The same people who championed the fundraiser for Ojukwu are the ones now disgusted with Ojukwu's foolish turnaround and misbehavior, and here you are once again pretending to be a champion for Ojukwu.
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Joy, Okwyonwuka is not alone in this double speak game. I found Ogbunigwe's attack on Wacko completely unjustified. There is nothing Wacko wrote that Ogbunigwe hadn't said himself about Ojukwu in the not too distant past. The only difference is that Wacko has applied objective criteria based especially on Ojukwu's recent actions.
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Odester Nchege, Well, I guess I need to clearify a few things. I took an interest quite recently in the Nigeria-Biafra war and I was born some 7 years after the guns fell silent. The argument I made at that time was based on one man's version of events so it was rather a biased presentation on my part. I'm talking about Gen Madiebo's book; "Nigerian Revolution and the Biafran war". I don't think it was sound to debate such an issue from a narrow knowledge base. Mind you, he is a fellow ANAMBRA MAN FROM AWKA. I've been involved in heated debates over that issue that I decided to explore and see wide ranging accounts including term papers by military officers. I also compared accounts of authors like John de st Jorre and other books written by meccenaries who ran weapons into Biafra. Bernard Odogwu played a prominent role in the affair of Biafra and he also has his own account of events. After comparing various takes on the issue, Ojukwu in my opinion emerged as the best we could have had at that time. At 33yrs of age, he was not infallible and as in any patriotic war, supreme commanders make very difficult decisions which does not please everyone. So my friend Odester Nchege, I did not contradict myself, I simply learned more about the subject matter. The issue at hand is not Chekwas Okorie or his state of origin but about the stunning stand Ojukwu took on the APGA crisis. As a young tenager in the 90s, I was really impressed by Chekwas Okorie's Igbo nationalism as I watched one of his interviews on NTA Enugu. I think his organization then was called "Nkpume" or something, I don't remember exactly. What went through my mind was that at least we will have people that will replace the aging Igbo leadership. That was basically how I perceived him and never quite knew anything about him again until the 2003 elections with the emergence of APGA as a political party. CSE, I know you would love to depict my position on this issue as contradictory or at worst clannish but I'd like you to know that it is repugnant not to give credit when and where it is due. I also will not hesitate to scrutinize when someone steps out of line. That is my stand as far as Ojukwu is concerned. Going by the available information on the news media concerning the APGA crisis, I'll say it again Ojukwu was dead wrong. There is no doubt the war could have been better prosecuted and some of Ojukwu's decisions might not have been the best. After seeing alternative opinions, I'm yet to be convinced by anyone that he delibrately took actions that were detrimental to the war effort. The issues sorrounding that war and accompanying intrigues are cloudy at best and therefore it is rational to have a variety sources if you really intend to ascertain any thing factual. In any case, I really don't give a damn whether you people come to your senses or not. My reply to wacko was not an attack at all, it was just another view point. The only person I rightly attacked on this thread was Nwa Aro but I now realize that there are actually many of his ilk on BNW who will misconstrue people's comments to serve their selfish ends. I could actually recall Bababoyz doing the same to me when I got into a fight with Chiboy a while ago. Anyway, CSE you can go to bloody hell for all I care!. It is obvious that you and Nwa Aro are probably of the same breed of myopic individuals.
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A hypocrite?... Just take a look in the mirror and you'll see what a depraved hypocrite looks like. I don't need to go further than I have already done in my preceeding post. Go back to my initial posts or even my exchanges with wacko and see if they amounted to your so called "attacks". I'm sure you deliberately ommitted this reply to Wacko during my exchanges with him? ------------------------------------------------- "Wacko, I was initially of the mindset that Ojukwu mislead and made a lot of costly mistakes during that 1966-70 period that resulted in the fall of Biafra. This is the impression you get from people like Gen. Madiebo or even Ben Gbulie but after having read a little more on the crisis particularly from independent foreign authors, I came away with a different conclusion. Bernard Odogwu also gave a lot of plausible reasons why some of these officers seemed disgruntled. Infact, my final conclusion was that Ojukwu was probably good only as a crisis leader and doesn't come off as a savy politician. I really don't think you've made your point at all. In any case, I still think the APGA crisis was beyond politics and he should have handled it better".---Ogbunigwe -------------------------------------------------
Why do "matured" grumpy old men like you enjoy smearing other people?. Your pathetic attempt to misconstrue my views and superimpose your false albeit malevolent interpretations is a good indication of your sordid character.
I assume you are about thirty years old - old enough not to jump into silly arguments. And certainly you and I are in the same age bracket in Erikson's Eight Stages of Human Development: Young Adulthood which spans from 19 to 40 years. So you can't exactly claim natural underage folly. You come across as an explosive senseless person(Ogbunigwe). As in your December 2002 posts, you are claiming everyone else has misunderstood you. You seem rattled I dared to hold you to account for what you wrote in the past. Tough luck.
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Quote: ------------------------------- "The only person I rightly attacked on this thread was Nwa Aro but I now realize that there are actually many of his ilk on BNW who will misconstrue people's comments to serve their selfish ends.---Ogbunigwe. ------------------------------
Ogbunigwe & co, What a bunch of MINDLESS HYPOCRITES you guys are. After living in this race-infested environment (Germany) and has seen how BORN RACISTS often resort to crying "my race!" or "it is because of my race" or something in those lines when their ass has been exposed, I cant help than call you guys what you are. So if you thought that your misguided attacks will stop people like Nwa Aro from telling you guys from Anambra State what you have been and seems not to want to change from then YOU ARE MISTAKEN! What you should ask yourself after your tirade is has your childish personal attacks detered people on this board from telling you guys WHAT YOU MUST HEAR? Get this; as long as you guys are in the habit of leaving the ISSUES to attack people or chase the goose, you can be sure that Nwa Aro will continue to win converts on this board and around the world.
Quote: ------------------------------------- "CSE, I know you would love to depict my position on this issue as contradictory or at worst clannish. It is obvious that you and Nwa Aro are probably of the same breed of myopic individuals.---Ogbunigwe. ------------------------------------
Another attempt to run away from yourself I guess. Its not only CSE who can read you and your folks from Anambra State's CLANNISH and often violent brand of PRIMITIVE politicking. Away from this Ojukwu-Chewas crisis for a minute, Will you also deny the fact that the Ngige vs Chris Uba politics of its-either-my-or-no-way engulfing Anmabra State of late is financed by fools like you from Anambra State who enjoy genuine and true democracy in the west but keep your house back home burning? So while some of you came to BNW to cry "Obasanjo is responsible... Igboland is under seige" bla bla, and was joined in that line of foolish thinking by some who are not in the know, I can tell you that some of you who came here and went to other forums (closed and open) to make those NOISES were the same people (or know and are related to those who do) financing the crisis in your state. So why would you or anyone in his right mind expect Nwa Aro to cry more than the bereaved or to be used as feeder-fonder by you HYPOCRITES from Anambra State? Nwa Aro is smarter than that as you know by now. Good enough, what this Chukwuchekwa (that is Chekwa's full name) versus Ojukwu matter did in a away was to break the camel's back, or so to speak, and in the process opened the eyes of most Igbos from other parts of Igboland who are now discovering what I have been preaching all along, to the effect that OUR SO-CALLED ENEMIES ARE WITHIN US AND NOT FROM WITHOUT as you and your ilk made them believe before now. So what you witness on this thread and others before it is that most forumites (especially the likes of Ukaobasi whom you and your ilk have all along been decieving that the Anambra self-made and self-inflicted crisis was an "Igbo crisis") have just discovered like Chekwas Okorie did back home that they have been fighting the WRONG WAR and WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE. Period. People can now understand why I posit in the "Ojukwu is a Traitor" thread that this crisis is A BLESSING IN DISGUISE, and from the look of things, instead of contradicting me, what this thread and the stand you and folks from your part of Igboland took in it has vindicated that reasoning.
Quote. -------------------------------------------- "Why do "matured" grumpy old men like you enjoy smearing other people?---Ogbinigwe. --------------------------------------------
This last line from you can best be described as the RANTING OF AN ANT (apologies Okadigbo). Just review the threads (or beg those who are good in that art do it for you) and come back to tell us who has SMEARED, MALIGNED, and told more LIES about other members of this village (some who are obviously more intelligent than a million like him put together) than the likes of Okwy. The fact that you did not also notice (or you did but in your typical hypocritical mindset refused to say so) once again expose you as an UNREPENTANT racist and clan thinker and writer. Finally, since you have the gut to tell a fellow Igbo (another example that you consider him less Igbo) to "go to hell," I cant help than tell you and your type that there's no place more fit for you and your ilk than the same "hell" you asked CSE to go to.
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Aristotle aka CSE, so I'm no longer a hypocrite?Anyway, my reference to you as a "grumpy oldman" was a sarcastic retort to your earlier posting. It seemed like that really pissed you off...LOL Despite all the posturing, you still come accross as a conniving person.
Nwa Aro, I've seen you for what you are and god willing, we will never cross each other's path. Yes Anambra people are evil. They are holding the rest Igboland hostage. They routinely kill their fellow Igbos and burn their properties in the north. They are responsible for all the bad roads in eastern nigeria. Infact, they were actually so diabolic that they ended up being the only Igbo state with the strongest governorship showing for APGA in the last elections. On the other hand, other Igbo states especially the one from which Nwa Aro hailed were very patriotic and voted Igbo nationalists and APGA candidates like Orji Kalu and Udenwa back into office. It was common knowledge that Arthur Nzeribe from Abia /Imo state never really canvassed for a state of emergency on Anambra state. Infact it was Ojukwu,Ekewueme,etc who directly hired the thugs from warri to plant bombs and burn down the state infrastructures. I can now understand why you couldn't control your innate disdain for them to the point that you ended up gloating over the recent mayhem in the state. Are you happy now?.....nonesense!
quote: Aristotle aka CSE, so I'm no longer a hypocrite?Anyway, my reference to you as a "grumpy oldman" was a sarcastic retort to your earlier posting. It seemed like that really pissed you off...LOL Despite all the posturing, you still come accross as a conniving person. -Ogbunigwe
I was only too happy to deny you an excuse: that old men don't understand youthful fellows like you!
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I have missed a lot since I was last here and folks I would not claim to have been "been" banned like Okwy.
CSE, thanks for bringing up that post made by Ogbunigwe eons ago and thanks to the webmaster for maintaining our archives unlike Egbeomo. When Ogbunigwe wrote that he had held certain views in the past, I did not realise that they were this strong. I am left wondering how long it would take to change his views again after reading another individuals work.
Ogbunigwe,
I was a bit taken aback when I read in your post
quote:Anyway, CSE you can go to bloody hell for all I care!. It is obvious that you and Nwa Aro are probably of the same breed of myopic individuals
I had been of the impression that you came here for a debate. I still maintained that position when you wrote,
quote: You are completely out of line here. The fact that you reduced Ojukwu's actions throughout the 1966-70 period as merely jumping on a "bandwagon" has totally nullified anything reasonable you might have had in your post . Infact, your comments indicate more of personal hatred for Ojukwu than anything else .
If you notice I went ahead and responded in a civil manner. So I must say that you were out of order with what you directed at CSE.
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Wacko, Didn't you see what he said to me in his post?. Okay, maybe I was a bit brash and should have chosen my words better. Anywaz, do not worry as to whether or not my views will change because I believe that I now have a somewhat broader picture regarding the Nigeria-Biafra conflict as well as the pros and cons of Ojukwu's leadership therein. At the moment, I draw my conclusions based on current actions.
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Joy, The values i received from my mother and the respect of my wife does not permit me to appropriately respond to your insults. Nevertheless, without prejudice to the administration of this forum, i can correctly tell you that I have been banned and unbanned in this from for more than four times in the recent weeks. Here is the rebound i read on my screen each time i meet such difficulties.
quote... Sorry, but your IP Number is currently banned in our forums. You may not post or register on our site. Please feel free to email us at [email protected] if you have any questions. Your IP number is: 200.90.175.116 ....On quote
More so, my training as 'Tecnico superior' in informatics system permits me to know what it takes to ban or unbans a handle in an Internet forum.
Mebiafra, I am not angry, i need not to be. By the will of the Great Provider, my household has the grace of good life and health and that is what matters to me.
Your problem is the man Ojukwu, you have not been able to find a level ground, on one hand, you're his great fan, on the other hand, he should be banished because the majority in this forum holds such opinion. When you put your acts together and put up your stand, then, and only then will i take you serious.
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Okwy and I discussed(by PM) his being banned from BNW two weeks ago, and I have no doubt but that his IP address was banned.
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Okwy and I discussed(by PM) his being banned from BNW two weeks ago, and I have no doubt but that his IP address was banned.
That is puerile!
The question to Greg and Okwy is: did you contact the webmaster about the log-in difficulties that you claim to have discussed with each other? That two persons discussed a falsehood does not change its falsity. Okwyonwuka has never been banned at BNW. It is really ludicrous to suppose that Okwy would be able to make posts on this board if the webmaster targetted and banned him.
Greg:
Pray, tell, how is it you are able to state that you have "no doubt but that his IP address was banned," unless you have logged in as Okwyonwuka and from his IP address?
Okwy:
Show this forum the PM or e-mail that you sent to the webmaster to complain about being banned and the reply that you received, if any. Your e-mail or PM must include verifiable markers. When you claimed that you were banned and unbanned, my question to you is: banned by whom, and unbanned by whom? I don't know the meaning of "'Tecnico superior' in informatics system." I hope it means that you know the difference between "I have been banned" and "an IP address has been banned."
VERY IMPORTANT: If your IP address was banned, which IP address are you using now?
You say:
quote:The values i received from my mother and the respect of my wife does not permit me to appropriately respond to your insults. Nevertheless, without prejudice to the administration of this forum, i can correctly tell you that I have been banned and unbanned in this from for more than four times in the recent weeks.
I hope that is not a threat to launch a barrage of insults at me. If that is your intention, please, don't let your mother get in your way. You can be certain that I will respond appropriately to you and anyone who happens to be your speech writer when your insults come.
If you have a problem with your use of BNW, you should contact the webmaster by e-mail. You are old enough on this board to know that that is the way it works.
ON OJUKWU and APGA: Take your blinders off.
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Okwy is free to publish my PM to him responding to his revelation of his being banned. If he has deleted it, I still have a copy.
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Most of us here are enligtened and abroad, yet we can not disagree without causing confusion.
How then can we criticize unenligtened legislators in Nigeria?
For those that think our problems will be over if we separate from Nigeria, this is a miniature of what it will be like. And to think that money is not even involved yet.
This is why i always ask us to be the change we want to see from the larger society.
Lets starts from ourself to effect that positive change we crave for Nija.
There is no gworo eating hausa here or ofe nmanu eating yoruba man. it is just us, umuigbo. Let us be civil and respect each other.
Ka Chineke mezie okwu!
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It's indeed sad that you refused to learn from your mistakes. You let yourself be used to derail our collective fight for freedom with that ill conceived support for Ojukwu whom as you rightly stated I've supported all along until this APGA crap broke. Moving right along below.
quote:Your problem is the man Ojukwu, you have not been able to find a level ground, on one hand, you're his great fan, on the other hand, he should be banished because the majority in this forum holds such opinion. When you put your acts together and put up your stand, then, and only then will i take you serious.
I�m rather appalled that you would join those with lesser brains to make this allegation. Of course I�ve always been for Igbo, Biafra and Ojukwu which should not negate me from saying how much Ojukwu screwed up this time around after the facts began to emerge. I�ve remained consistent with my position on this board as I�ve been in real life. I�m not sure what part of Igboland you cometh although I dare guess Anambra but from whence I came we have this saying, anaham eku nwa ọjọ maka na ọmu mụrụ ya � Loosely, I do not support a bad child because I gave birth to that child. So, I hereby challenge you to link us to any of my posts that support your false accusation against me. My very first post after initially ignoring that thread started by Ineboh was to advice caution followed by stating clearly my disappointment with Ojukwu after the facts began to emerge, which I guess tickled your fancy. Go back to that Ineboh and Ukaobasi's threads to crosscheck this statement. You don't want me to foolishly support evil/wrong doing because Ojukwu is involved, would you? To help your case you might consider providing the forumites those comments by me and dates that you have issues with for contrast. That�s the way you do it since I've never posited that my support is UNCONDITIONAL, wrong or right. Please contradict me. Still not sure, all you gotta do is scroll back to see how CSE, Wacko, Ogbunigwe, Odester, Joy etc retrieved info from the archives to back their respective claims. Intelligent folks in the house believe me could put a whole lot together especially when one makes it a habit at throwing wild and unfounded allegations. Show the forumites when my transition against occurred and stop the dribbling. I hope you�re not trying to learn a bad habit from a fella who�s lately displaying high level of immaturity?
Joy to Okwyonwuka;
quote:You were the same person who attacked people on this forum for raising money to support Ojukwu during his campaign for president under APGA. The same people who championed the fundraiser for Ojukwu are the ones now disgusted with Ojukwu's foolish turnaround and misbehavior, and here you are once again pretending to be a champion for Ojukwu.
Could you explain this to those of us that were not around then?
Since when did this your Ojukwu's love began?
Didn't I challenge all you late supporters of Ojukwu to direct me to articles you've posted on any Web site in support and I'll meet that with the copious essays by me in solidarity?
I hope I�ve made all the clarifications that needs to be however, I look forward to reading those contradictory posts of mine. Thank you.
quote:Who sowed this seed of discord? - Nwa Afor
The author of this USELESS topic that's who!
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Thanks for the gesture. Well, i am not interesting in releasing any further information to Joy on this issue, this includes my private discussion with you, if she is not satisfied with the fact i already provided, then, she has to deal with it; with every due respect, Chiboy was accused to be my speech writer, soon enough, as you can notice the tune of her last post, she may directly accuse you to be on my payroll. i am not bothered, though. Thanks again.
___________________ He likened the second coming of Christ to the realisation of the Biafran dream, stating that at a time people least expect, the much sought Biafra would be a reality..Rev. Fr. Cornelius Ezeiloaku Posts: 622 | From: santiago, chile | Registered: Jan 2002
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It is sad that you have refused to learn from past mistakes. You have again been caught up in a lie. It is not the first time you have pulled this stunt before. During the APGA fund, we were only too happy to let thing go as " a misunderstanding between brothers" but this time I cannot believe that you thought people would not ask you for evidence.
The following quote really describes the type on individual you are.
quote:Well, i am not releasing any futher information to Joy on this issue, this includs my private discusion with you;
I really am not involved, and don't want to be involved in this question of Okwy being banned, or his IP address being banned, or whatever, but I know that on the 26th of February I responded to a PM from Okwy in which he complained of being banned from BNW. I have the message he sent me , and I have the one I sent him back saying I was sorry to hear of his trouble getting on to the site. I also advised him in my PM to write the webmaster. If Okwy allows me to publish the PM I sent him, it will put rest this idea that he is somehow making things up, but I won't blame him if he doesn't, because it's just deplorable what people are saying and doing right now as regards this relatively unimportant matter.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 796 | From: Valle del Sol, AZ | Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:...because it's just deplorable what people are saying and doing right now as regards this relatively unimportant matter. - Greg
My brother, you made a good observation, ordinarily I did say this PM matter cum ban and un-ban is so trifle too but it goes towards the establishment of the veracity of the claimant. Personally, I wouldn�t hesitate for micro-second to forward any correspondence with the Web Chief to the forum if nothing else, to buttress my claim.
___________________ BIAFRA: The land of my ancestors now, yesterday and always. So it will be! Posts: 2491 | From: Ala Igbo | Registered: Apr 2004
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quote: but I know that on the 26th of February I responded to a PM from Okwy in which he complained of being banned from BNW. I have the message he sent me , and I have the one I sent him back saying I was sorry to hear of his trouble getting on to the site. I also advised him in my PM to write the webmaster. If Okwy allows me to publish the PM I sent him, it will put rest this idea that he is somehow making things up,
Greg,
I am not saying that you are making up the story. I would however caution you and explain that you have been dragged into the matter by the devious Okwyonwuka. He played a trick on you and I am afraid you are falling for it. You have been set up to provide an alibi.
Umuibe, We need these questions answered;
How can Okwyonwuka PM without logging on?
If he could PM and recieve PM, how can he then claim to have been banned?
quote: but I won't blame him if he doesn't, because it's just deplorable what people are saying and doing right now as regards this relatively unimportant matter.
Greg, Please run before this fellow drags you down with him! I cannot believe that you are falling for this stunt. Most of us who have been long, have come to know what to expect from the likes of Okwyonwuka.
Finally, Greg please could you log out and pm to put this matter to rest. (I can't wait to get your post; Wacko check your pm)
Posts: 615 | From: London. | Registered: Mar 2001
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Wacko, You make an interesting observation regarding a banned person sending PMs. I logged out then tried Pming. No luck.
On a lighter note, I did remark sometime ago there was a check your PM syndrome spreading fast amongst some forumites. It was a trivial observation but the forensic psychological significance may yet come to light.
By the way, it was me who first PM'd Okwy. I noticed him back after not seeing him post for some time.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 796 | From: Valle del Sol, AZ | Registered: Nov 2004
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This is a simple matter. I don't want to get in between any running battles but when I saw that Okwy made a post after not seeing him post for some time, I sent him a PM. He PM'd me back saying that he had been having trouble getting on the site, and thought he had been banned for some reason. Obviously, whatever ban there was was temporary cos he was now back on the site. I sent him a reply commiserating with him and that was it. You guys are taking this stuff to unnecessary extremes. The question in my mind is why. But please don't answer cos I just want out of it. OK?
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 796 | From: Valle del Sol, AZ | Registered: Nov 2004
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Greg thanks for your pm. From your explanation and from my knowledge of Okwyonwuka, I think he simply lied to you to cover his abscence not expecting that someone would innocently repeat the lie in public.
Anyway, no sweat! I don't think you should be dragged into this. BTW; Greg you were supposed to log out before sending the PM. On the other hand can we request the webmaster to ban you for 1 hours and lets see if you can recieve or send pm.Posts: 615 | From: London. | Registered: Mar 2001
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Yes, I understood you were being facetious about trying to PM while logged out, but I chose to take you literally.
___________________ The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves... Posts: 796 | From: Valle del Sol, AZ | Registered: Nov 2004
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